NO PMO & Abstinent Relationship

Unless you're court-ordered or perhaps you're a celebrity that can afford the $60,000 Inpatient Rehab right and that's not the majority of the population unfortunately I've been through a month of therapy and gone to 12 12 step programs and I wish I would have never gone to any of them instead of done it on my own like being the wife are doing it we're doing fine

 

Then 100% abstinent for 33 days we're going 420 cuz it is going to reboot us and make us more incidents but I'm not doing it because my therapist says to we're doing it because we want to do it the sex addiction therapy is an industry it is not something there to necessarily help it's there to make money $130 an hour $100 for test drive around to do 12 step programs with other people that don't really know what your case is placed in positions to deal with people that are much more intensely in need of this than you are but you go through it anyway then you find out you don't really belong there and it's not really helping because it makes you feel worse not better so we're using positive reinforcement and a lot of self-help books that's the model I believe in sex sex therapy cannot even be coded properly for payment because it's not even in the DCM 10 manuals for medical coding okay they have to put it in there as an anxiety issue okay and all almost almost all sex therapist get paid in cash

 

And they're using a model overlay of a 12-step program from Allen on which was created in 1951 for people that have deeper mental issues in a sexual at s sexual addiction it's a bunch of Hocus Pocus

 

Two of my said the exact same thing it's nothing but a magic trick to get more money out of your wallet and make you feel like crap

 

Call your insurance company to see if they will pay for sex addiction inpatient treatment or therapy specifically. Then type in and find out statistics from psychycology standpoint for recovery statistics once branded as sex addict per norm always sex addict. There's your sources my insurance covers 0%, I took a 2 hour plus isat test which 35% of questions were have you ever driven by a school, porn shop, read a romanntic novel, strip club, irrelevant questions. This was the 3rd visit and was being evaluated and fully diagnosed for inpatient treatment asap 12 step meetings 90 in 90, and intensive 2 times a week $260×4=1040 monthly not including 90 90 driving around to find them time
And meds unknown cost, and $60000 rehab. Did I mention your supposed to work sustain sanity and save a 33 year marriage.
SOURCE YOU SAY I AM LIVING PROOF .....ENOUGH SAID

 

I am on a similar quest as you. I want to stop M, but for me it's because I feel better when I don't and if I can't gain control over that then how can I control myself going forward when my SO has lost all desire for sex and intimacy.

Like you my SO is a beautiful woman and it's really hard to know that I can't have that intimacy and closeness. Good luck! With God's help here's hoping we both succeed!

 

it's not that she does not what intimacy with me it's the fact that we're at in abstinence stage and during abstinence there is not going to be intimacy because we're resetting and rebooting the way that we treat and behaves with each other we have limited contacts hands holding hugs short kissing just no nudity no profanity we're literally rewiring ourselves so we'll be ready for True intimacy literally doing a complete restart after 33 years marriage

 

First I waited too long and now there are factors outside of our control which affect her desire for that. So I learned the hard way don't wait too long or it'll be too late.

 

Yes with God's help we will both do it bro Booyah a Minute to Win It more than a minute actually 87 more days for me I'm on a hundred and twenty Day deal now I'm on day 33 nice thing about it is my wife's doing it with me so who will give in first we won't

 

Day 36 of 120

 

I know exactly what your feeling 37 days, most of the time I stay busy so I don't have time to feel down but it's those times when I'm not really doing anything and I just want a quiet time and I look over and I see another couple and they're doing things we like we used to do talk about emptiness I mean you feel like you're at the very bottom of where you could be but being at the bottom I guess there's nowhere else to go but up right? And God is shining light on me for this whole thing now, the bad thing I'm fighting three fronts I have an 18 year old son who had to be kicked out of the house because he's decided to move into meth and heroin and I have a wife who was enabler for the longest and I was the angry husband rightfully so I objectifyed her during that process for my treatment to make me feel better and I still get to be without a son and without a wife really for sex and a shell of a person me to try and rebuild, anyway but the ultimate goal here is intimacy and restoration of our marriage and I have to look at it so that's the end game and hopefully I'll be able to restore my relationship with are my son if God will guide the way I think we can make that happen

 

DAY37 a harder day needs a softer day

 

Congrats brother!!!!!!