Would you be able to never masturbate again?

That's definitely the goal/wish.

NE's are acceptable.

 

For me, I plan tk getting to 90 days, then optionally going to 180 if i feel i need more time. Then i plan on 0 porn and Rare nasterbation (few times a month)

 

I thought something similar… then I found out how great I feel in a PMO free world!! Now I never want to go back as the benefits of PMO free life so outweigh the benefits of the occasional wank and porn!!

 

Seeing lots of guys post how many days they are on, on facebook posts. Really don't know if we need too many people jumping on the bandwagon with this to be honest. Cannot say I am fond of interjectors who have no experience of NF or SR trying to profess to be experts and expressing a lot of negativity towards us. End of the day if you have been diligent with this you no it works and won't really have any need to show the world. Don't let NF become PUA or Mgtow who have put a target on their heads.

 

If porn was not a factor to consider, then yes; I'm sure that I could live the rest of my life without masturbating

 

That’s a very strange statement…

 

What's so strange about it?

 

Is this a trick question? Is it "able to never"? Or never be able? Lol. I was worried I might give the wrong answer for the cleverly places negatives?

I am a no P guy. Seen it but not as a habit or regularly, just randomly. Still more than I should have. Past tense.

Yes. I am able to never masturbate again. I have no option to do so. I dont have to say NO to MO. Thats a done deal. It's done for me. Physically impossible.

Wife likes it right where it is. She reminds me every day that it is where it needs to stay.... in the cage.

I also will never be able to masturbate again. Same reason. Same wife. Same location.

She has made it very clear that masturbation is not an acceptable practice. I know she is right. She also knows I cannot do it behind her back, so she doesn't have to sneak up on me. Though she did while I was in the shower and said, what are you doing in there? Are you doing something naughty? I said really? You think? How? She just laughed.

She has enough trouble with her chronic illnesses. She trusts me, but loves that she doesn't have to give it a second thought. She knows I am weak and would probably masturbate if not caged. So it gives her peace of mind and heart.

She doesn't want me to draw inward by focusing on masturbation instead of showing her love. She doesnt want to feel like she is competing with my hand, even though she cannot do intimacy. We are friends first. Love and trust is most important.

She knows that I will be locked permanently and I vowed to stay this way as long as she says. In her case, she is not going to get better, so she wants it this way.

Masturbation is a slippery slope, the gateway. She knows it. I know it. So, NEVER, although its a strong word, will definitely be when I can masturbate again.

 

The fact that the question was not “if porn was not a factor to consider.”

 

There is so much on this subject out there already. Lots of posts on facebook, saw a guy with a placard saying he has gone 1000 days. Some of the stuff about chastity cages sounds very Bdsm like. Starting to wonder how common the knowledge is of SR NP. I know chastity devices are sold at most adult shops, if that is the case then it must be fairly common knowledge that not jerking off is highly desireable to women.

 

1000 days. Damn. Longer than me. I just upped my goal. Oh yeah, I am permanent. I will overtake and pass him.

I get that vibe from what I have read about most women that male masturbation is not popular with them. Think you got it right.

I have never been to an adult store. I would believe you that chastity devices are sold there.

Keep in mind that whether it is for play, or in my case, a dead serious situation that I am in that requires permanent chastity and no PMO ever, the purpose of a chastity device is to rein in the unregulated behavior of a typical male. Women who are far more balanced, level headed, and self regulating, are no longer subjected to a man with selfish sexual pursuits and sexually the playing field is leveled in the relationship. Interesting that they are sold in adult stores and not regular stores, except Amazon has them.

However, you CAN go to cvs or Walgreens or walmart for com and they have a nice selection of vibrators, dildos and male masturbation toys available for purchase.

Damn shame that those stores will promote masturbation as a "sexual wellness" item. So masturbation is promoted as good for you. Yet they do not sell a product that promotes abstinence, and self control, like, say, oh yeah, a chastity cage. God forbid they sell something like that. Its so deviant that someone would make something that you could use to prevent the selfish act of masturbation.

Now who is deviant and twisted? Its obvious.

Masturbation... Promoted. Encouraged for your wellness. Easy to find devices from wholesome stores like the aforementioned.

Self control... Dark, Deviant practice. Some kind of sick demented subculture of people. Why dont they masturbate like "normal" people?

Sorry for interjecting logic into the thread.

Has anyone thought about calling those stores and asking them why they would be selling products that lead people down a dark path by masturbating? Probably not.

 

The word wanker has always had negative connotations. The more you think about it the more you can see it not being a desireable trait. I am on about 15 months myself. I look at a bit of porn from time to time, no relapses, came close today. I think that when on a streak you can pickup wankish behaviour when you see it.

 

Okay. First it was wordplay and you may not have noticed the LOL. Second, the f word is not in my vocabulary. Third if I am an effing weirdo, because I want to do whatever is necessary to block myself from from doing pmo, show self-respect, show respect for my wife into our relationship, and I am having some success, isn't that what everyone here is trying to do?

With all due respect, calling me a weirdo for using a supplemental device to accomplish the same goal that everyone else here is trying to accomplish, doesn't make any sense.

You applaud a person who can go days without pmo, as do I. We take an attitude of by any means necessary to avoid falling into the Trap of pmo. We share our successes and failures.

I think the point needs to be made that we should think of a person that looks at pmo as normal behavior as a weirdo. If it could be considered normal behavior why are we all here trying to fight it? My thought is anyone who has fallen into the Trap and is now trying to get out of it is someone to be praised for their effort.

I think I am a weirdo if I am doing PMO and thinking its perfectly acceptable behavior. My wife would agree. That is why I have her support in my fight. I am grateful. Don't we all need the support of our wife, gf, so? I say yes, and thank them.

Just my thoughts on what an effing weirdo I am, and that you have judged me to be. I am, like I think everyone else here, doing what I do for all the right reasons. Chaste, loveable, virtuous. You are a spiritual person, I took those words right from Scripture. Phil. 4:8. So my judge wrote that about me. A little different from your verdict.

Thanks for the sentiment.... I mean judgement. Oh, he also said, stop judging, lest ye be judged. Matt. 7. I am just here to give and get support. No one responds well to being incriminated.

It's all about love and compassion. 1 Cor. 13. Gal. 6:2. Let's all apply these principles.

Peace.

 

It’s the fact that you won’t stop talking about it when no one asked.

By any means necessary certainly doesn’t involved a cage in 99% of normal peoples minds.
I don’t applaud your method, as it’s absolutely ridiculous and doesn’t actually require any real discipline. You even went as far to suggest you might need to be castrated before you had this bright idea that you could just lock your shit in a cage like a freak. Should I admire someone who doesn’t masturbate because they’ve been castrated too? Cause that’s essentially what you’ve done.

Your wife is clearly extremely controlling and unreasonable. If she is unable to engage in sexual activity with you, she should have the decency to let you do what you want when it doesn’t even require cheating with someone else. If you on your own accord wanted to abstain from masturbation then that’s great, but for her to try and control that is just absurd in my opinion. There is another man on here who’s wife became terminally ill and he decided through his own will to abstain from pmo during that time. He went for over 2 years without any stupid fucking cage. His wife then passed away, and he’s still going because he wants to.

 

So let's review.

Never mentioned castration. Dont know where that is from. That's kinda crazy... Unless it is medically necessary like my friend that had to have his testicles removed so he wouldn't die from cancer. Is he a freak too?

Actually, I went to my doctor about whether she thought I needed therapy or counseling to help me. Do you think counseling is for weirdos and freaks? I am sure some here would be offended at that. I am.

Are you putting yourself in the 99% normal category? Just saying that may be a bit presumptuous considering how you absolutely come unglued that someone doesn't see the world exactly as you do. Maybe you are the 1% that's normal and the rest of us are weird.

You expanded your vocabulary I see, to include the S word. Always love to see those with limited vocabularies branch out a bit. Unfortunately it's not much of a stretch.

You spell differently by the way. You spelled the term support ..... c o n t r o l. What language is that.i speak English. Nowhere did I say my wife, see if I can pronounce this right, CONTROL (wow look at me, I am bilingual and I don't even know what language that I just spoke). I said she, as we say in English, SUPPORTS me. I guess that must have gotten lost in your translator app.

You didn'tt even ask if my wife was controlling, actually you said "clearly extremely controlling and unreasonable". Not one, but two adverbs to emphasize controlling and unreasonable. Wow. Grammatical genius. (By the way an adverb describes an adjective and a lot of them end in 'ly. There I made it easy for you to find them in your sentence.)

Do you know my wife? Since you are so quick to judge, or misjudged, her, thought you may have met. You are a really good judge of character... LOL, just kidding.

For the record, I dont think you were asked to speak either yet you will not stop talking about it. Nowhere in my text did I ask for your response, but you just can't stop.

So then, who is the one that needs to stop talking? I am sure you have an answer for that too. But I will just sit back and listen... and laugh.

Nothing's is crazier than having such a narrow minded Imrightedness. See I can make up vocabulary too. But mine is safe for little ears.

I am not always right, but I am always me.

 

Are you ok man? I read the other threads you made here and you did mention that you considered castration might be the only solution to your problem. Do you suffer memory loss?

why are you equating therapy with chastity cages? Those are 2 entirely different things.

If you can find anyone else on this site that uses a chastity cage go ahead and let me know. And I hope it’s at least more than 1 person on this entire forum.

I don’t care what word you used. To an outsider who isn’t delusional, it’s apparent that your wife is controlling.

Yes, clearly and extremely are 2 different descriptive words that can be used congruently. Anything else you need help understanding?

 

I use a chastity device, and I have met a few others on here who use them as well.
It’s been helpful to me.
And, I don’t really see how it is much different than the men and women on here that use computer programs to block their access to porn.

Some people can quit looking at porn without this software, others can’t. Some people can stop masturbating without a chastity device. Others can’t.

In SAA, I knew a guy who would give his cell phone and his creditcard to his sponsor every night. Rather than think of him as being weak, I was inspired by his willingness to go to any length to stop acting out.

There’s no shame in using a device to stop from masturbating. To ridicule and judge @Bobber dir doing so is like judging someone for installing a smoke detector to prevent themselves from smoking in their house.

Chastity devices work. Period. If you’re still jerking off … maybe you should try it out for yourself.

 

Wow. Dude. By the way....

Spiritual immunity.... What is the meaning behind the name? I was trying to figure it out.

Are you immune to spirituality? I kind of don't know what that question even means.

Or does your spirituality make you immune to something?

I was wondering whether you are spiritual or anti-spiritual. Please explain.

I will start with mine. My fishing buddy gave me that nickname because everyone calls me Bob. But he asked me for a bobber one day and jokingly called me that and it stuck.

So if I had to guess I think you must be anti spiritual. I am saying that based on the limited adjective and adverbs you used that I pointed out that were completely inappropriate to use.

I say that because Jesus talked to a woman who was getting her freak on with a man she was not married to and she had already had several husbands before him, and he treated her pretty nice I think. He also broke bread with tax collectors and nobody liked them because they were crooks. He gave hope to an evil criminal who realized who Jesus was just before he dies. He also said it wasn't right to be judgmental or you're gonna be in big trouble with his Daddy. Ooh that hits close to home. Ouch!

Let's not forget to do unto others. Yeah. Like it. So when someone expresses their thoughts, we wouldn't just come out and bash them without insight now would we? Like maybe they are expressing what is in their heart. My dad said, 2 ears, 1 mouth. Listen twice as much as you talk. Also the way you listen is to show respect for others, even if they think or believe different than you because God gave everyone free will.

I think Jesus didnt want us to judge, he wanted us to love. He did it in every way. He listened to what others said and then acted with insight.

When his homies were arguing who was the greatest one of them, what did he do? He just taught them an object lesson in humility. He didn't say, "hey freak boy and weirdo, what the heck is wrong with you? You are so stupid. You argue who is the greatest and you think it's you? Jesus Christ, you guys, I am standing right here! You are so controlling and unreasonable, extremely". Nope.

(Heres the pitch... Fast ball down the middle. He swings.... (Crack) Its a hit. Its a line drive.... Way back.... Way back.... He could go all the way!.. Its outta here! Understanding and imitating that comparative of how Jesus taught us to talk to and treat others is a walk-off home run every time. Anything else would be a Strikeout. Game Over.)

Learn from the Master.

 

Well, that’s sad.
You didn’t even respond to any of the valid points that I made.
These forums are for discussion and helping each other, even when we disagree. But you just hurled out insults, judgement and accusations.

How is that helpful?

 

Thank you name I can't pronounce. I have no fetishes. I don't know anyone that practices bdsm unless they do and don't tell me. I have only ever had relations with my wife.... And not until we were married. I have never slept with anyone or anything else. I am a moral man.

I would like to think others here could say the same. If not, still I am not a judge. If you can, then you umderstand the additional struggle to navigate thru a world where that practices is "normal".

I wonder on a scale of morality, which is more moral, wearing a device to prevent PMO, or having sexual relations with someone that is not your wife? Yes I know I must be a weird freak because I have only had sex within a marriage to a woman. OMG whaaaat? You didn't test the waters? You bought the cow when the milk is free? I have heard it all.

I don't owe anybody an explanation but I am saying it because I am not hiding behind a wall of words designed to judge and condemn anyone. I am free to do as I choose and have chosen morality. How I get there is how I get there. Same for anyone else.

Love not judge.