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Question for partners of PAs

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Deleted Account, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. I/K. Miles to go before I sleep...
     
  2. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    Yeah I love it, too. :)
     
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  3. And that other one with the line :
    "I'm a sucker for the witch!"

    Yeah. Witches are hot.
     
  4. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Ha!
    Since when?
     
  5. You obviously haven't listened to the song!

    Stevie Nicks?
    Glenda?
    Samantha?
    Sabrina?
    Do I need to go on???
     
  6. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Dont talk to me about Stevie.
    I heart Stevie.
    I just haven't heard men share her views Ever
     
  7. Thanks so much for replying. The input is very helpful to me.:)
     
  8. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Fapstronaut

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    Holy shit, @Kenzi . I never thought of it this way. Wow.
     
  9. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    You're welcome :)
     
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  10. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Fapstronaut

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    What is the worst part of the PMO for partners? It's straight up betrayal. It's bringing in another party to our (supposed to be) monogamous relationship. It's like bringing those women directly into our bedroom to sleep in our bed. They are between us constantly, dividing us. When we should be together, united as one flesh within our marriage, he is sharing his mind and his body with them and separating himself from me. And he has taken away every choice I had in the matter.

    Does the M bother you even if no P is involved? What is the point of M'ing if there is no P or fantasizing? Save it and be intimate with your partner instead.
     
  11. Don't necessarily share her views just think she's sexy. Difference difference of opinion never stopped me from giving that good love. She's like a cat in the dark and then she is the darkness.
     
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  12. Yes, this. The lies and overt/covert deception. Secret life.

    And for me, a big disappointment is the escalation that this path can take --- my hub escalated to BackPage and went to women he paid --- money for sex. Porn use can (and does) escalate.

    It's great if a porn user notices a problem and stops before it gets completely out of control. Good on you, @Thor god of thunder for realizing the problem.

    Yes - this affects our reality. It's psychologically and emotionally abusive.

    YES. THIS. I'm still being blamed. He says he owns his behavior, but then he blames me. More gas-lighting.

    YES. THIS. TOO. The passive-aggressive behavior involved with conducting a secret life is also very hurtful. It shakes our reality.
     
  13. For me it's ALL OF THE ABOVE. I do understand, that M by itself is not a bad thing, but when connected to P or post-P fantasies (while in a committed relationship especially), then it's also cheating, just like P.
    I am not going to repeat all my reasons, because I agree with other posters on the lying, P, etc.
     
  14. Thanks, all of this really just gives me added resolve to not even edge. Even with things she wouldn't be worried about, because I know the affect they have on me on the inside. P-subs they seem to be called.
     
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  15. I think we should have a PMOE counter because I don't think a lot of people realize how much edging still affects your thinking
     
  16. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    My SO is over a year PM free.
    He's actually a year and a half.
    He's had a P-Subs blip.
    It was minor... Most people around here didn't call it a relapse.
    We run two counters on him because of it tho.
    He's making huge strides and it seemed to not set him back because he was so far into reboot.
    Still... He faced heavy consequences.
    I wasn't going to deal with any more lying.
     
  17. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    I have seen a lot of people say that the edging is actually worse for you, effects your brain more. I am not sure how true that is, but I've read it a lot.
     
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  18. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    And I think there are three kinds of addict people here... The people more M, the people more P and the SA trying to P&M to be free of S

    Then you have the SOs.
    And the parents seeking information.
     
  19. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    I think that the counter should depend on what part of the addict spectrum you fall into.
    You know?
    Better customize the reboot for better healing
     
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  20. Hopefulgirl

    Hopefulgirl Fapstronaut

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    Edging is worse than O because it bathes your brain in more dopamine than just quickly finishing with an O. O releases prolactin which stops dopamine release.
    Edging causes more dopamine release and more downregulation of dopamine receptors after the fact.
     

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