I feel gay

Then it's HOCD. The OCD will go away if you stop PMO completely.

 

Honestly, a lot of gay people are gay simply because they want to have sex with other men. If you've been there, in that gay community, you'd know that it's not so much about love but mostly about sex and lust. If you want to date a gay person, first thing they will ask you is about your "stats", meaning size of your penis etc. Not going to judge especially not because I've been there myself and I found out, most of them are mainly interested in sex. I don't know if there is such a thing as a true homosexual to be honest, if that's the case he must have been exclusively into men from childhood, that means childhood, not puberty.
Tbh gays and straight females are two different groups. The straight females aren't obsessed with sex the way gays are.

IMO a lot of men have the potential to be attracted to men, including myself, but it's all about lust and not so much about love. If it weren't they wouldn't ask you about the size of your penis for starters.
I think that porn can have a significant role in pulling men into a gay lifestyle. I'm sure that when OP abstains from PMO he will notice that his attraction toward girls and women will be more pronounced, and that he will find that his true identity is where his heart is.

 

Also, OP, I'd like you to know that I had the same thoughts and desires as you. I found out that in real life I couldn't act on my fantasies. The obsessions do go away for almost 100% if you abstain from all PMO. Never forget porn is lying to you. It makes you crave something you don't really want. Hope this helps.

 

But that is still homosexuality. Homo simply means "of the same" so, you are sexually attracted to your sex. Whether or not love plays a role has nothing to do with the actual definition. This is why I'm confused.

 

Not true. OCD is complex anxiety disorder and is grounded on deep underlying fears. Until you address them, the OCD won't get better. Stopping porn is massively important but will not resolve OCD on it's own. That's why you have to assertively relabel the thoughts. They will never go away completely but the should reduce and when they do come they will not cause as much anxiety.

 

I don't believe that. If you always watch vanilla P someday it's going to become dull and then you will want something 'wrong,forbidden' (whatever fits the criteria in your own mind) and that's when people go to transwoman P or gay P or whatelse.

 

Ahh, broscience, lol! Sorry, it just irritates me when people are trying to learn things here and other people are inserting their own personal logic and opinion as proven scientific fact. I've never seen anything that says estrogen replaces testosterone. If someone can show me a source for this information, I'd be interested in reading it. Otherwise, this is just conjecture. Furthermore, the idea that this drop in testosterone is so drastic that it would effect someone's sexual preference is highly suspect if not absurd.

 

Up until (believe it or not) 1992 homosexuality was classified as a psychiatric disorder and all sorts of things were tried to "treat" it, including hormone treatments. Unsurprisingly, nothing worked.

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7437/427

From a very detailed review article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1997/06/homosexuality-and-biology/304683/

There are theories that pre-natal exposure to hormomes may affect sexual orientation (more on that in the article if you're interested) but that has nothing to do with PMO.

 

I shouldn't have opened this thread because now it has made me worry and full of anxiety again. Perhaps the best thing is to forget about it if you can.

 

I found this hard to believe, but I found confirmation if it here in the penultimate paragraph:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...n-homosexuality-stopped-being-mental-disorder

 

Honestly, a lot of straight people are straight simply because they want to have sex with women.

 

Love and lust are two different things.

 

I don't think you have the first idea what being a homosexual is @bken. Check the dictionary for God's sake! Collins says:
"sexual attraction to or sexual relations with members of the same sex". https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/homosexuality

Well, there are millions of men and women out there who are attracted to or are having sexual relations with the same sex!
Your private definition is irrelevant i.e. "he must have been exclusively into men from childhood, not puberty". WTF!

 

I agree "Love and lust are two different things". But you seem to be saying that heterosexuality is based on love and homosexuality is based on lust! If that is what you are saying and what you actually believe, that is shocking tbh!

 

Don't do it, it's not healthy. Or you mean pitching? I would not encourage that either, but the other is poison stay away from it.

I don't know if anyone questions that some men are attracted to other men or primarily attracted. The question is how does this come about, is it healthy? I don't think it's anymore natural than a foot or ass fetish, and I don't think it's healthy. Regardless sex is not all someone is, or it shouldn't be, and people don't need to have sex to have a fulfilling life. Many lives are ruined by having sex, people become obsessed with sex and it consumes them much like PMO does. Not having sex will not prevent someone from being who they really are.

Must of what we were taught about sex is just made up lies meant to overinflate the importance of the act. Perhaps women hopped on board this idea on some level thinking it would increase their value, and then, of course, like lies do it spun off in another direction and the gay community started spouting off about how important holy and sacred sex is for them as well.

The idea of romance between two men is idiotic, IMO. A famous philosopher talked about how the platonic love between men was greater than the love between a man and a woman. If a man wants to love another man why add sex to the equation? Those who have had a real brother a true friend? This blows away what you will have with a woman when it comes to trust and real love.

Sex between men tends to be about lust on an extreme level far beyond that of man and woman its unbridled ugly lust with extreme promiscuity and anonymous encounters between strangers.

 

As far as I know there is testosterone in your semen. How much I don't know? Also when you wank and ejaculate some of your testosterone converts to DHT. According to some studies [ what are studies worth these days?] testosterone peaks after a week of abstinence.

Personal experience tells me health and obviously, energy is much higher when not wanking. Some of that could be due to mental stress from wanking, but obviously ejaculating results in energy loss.

Low-fat diets can reduce testosterone. They are unhealthy and testosterone is made from cholesterol

** I'm not a scientist** I've only read that testosterone is made from cholesterol seems to be the case, though. Supposedly the body needs it to make testosterone, but maybe it has other means?

My own experience with low fat diets tell me they are bad and just plain stupid and unhealthy.

 

This is a load of fucking bollocks, IMO. Where do you get your bizarre opinions about homosexual relationships man?

 

Judging by what I'm reading, 90% of people who have posted in this thread are deeply closeted homosexuals.

Meh, I hate being right all the time.

 

What do you mean? Im addicted to anal masturbating