fucking wet dream

Clumsy you want to hospitalize a gay guy that masturbates to excess so he is watched carefully and made to cut his addiction! Have you any idea how weird you are allowing yourself to become?

 

Some guys involuntary realease sperm when they crap. Isn't that natural?

 

Yes. Just like I want alcoholics to be taken care of by professionals. Really nothing wrong with my opinions, you're just brainwashed. And I must have hurt you very much of what I say. If I'm not wrong, much of what I have said does strongly apply to you. Don't be angry at me, be mad at yourself. I'm just trying to help by telling the truth. If truth is too painful for you, that is too bad, but I won't stop telling it because of that.

 

Two causes:

1. withdrawal from PMO addiction, causing a "hairtrigger".

2. Constipation putting pressure on the prostate.

Natural? Depends on how you see it. Does it happen for men that does not masturbate? No.

 

And, may I ask this following question:

Shall my mother and I pay for mental health care just because he does not want to stop masturbation? Is that right? Why shall I pay because he can't pull himself together?

 

Wet dreams are not relapses and no there is nothing you can do about them. It's your sub/unconscious mind at work, you can't control your dreams. It is the body's way of clearing the system. Just like excretion. You can do things to limit the chances of a wet dream, I found edging or fantasying just before bed increases the chances. But yesterday, I went 35 days with no fantasy or looking at porn whatsoever, and I had a wet dream.

Today, I felt OK, some relief to not have a heavy ball sack for the first time in 35 days. Mid afternoon, I had a chaser effect and my mind slipped for the first time to imagining this girl who works in the office with me.

As long as you don't go back to masturbation or porn, continue as normal. Since is the first time for me past 36 days ever and just after a wet dream... this is unknown territory. I must not give in... fuck the zero.

 

But the guy stop PMO 10days.

I agree with you about putting pressure...but sometime you need to squeeze a little bit to get rid of all that crap. Its not good for your health leaving a little crap longer in you.

 

Great example, here demonstrating the chaser effect that often comes along with a wet dream. You just strengthened my belief, wet dreams are never beneficial for the reboot. Simple as that.

 

The valve door that closes the semen in is weakened by masturbation, causing premature ejaculation and semen leakage. Semen shouldn't leak out that easy. I smell unnatural influences... I smell... Sniff Sniff

 

Okay how long should the guy wait to have the valve door stronger?

Or will 90days of no PMO make the valve stronger?

 

I had semen leakage several months into my reboot. And some weeks it was better, some weeks it became worse. Not linear. I cannot answer that, depends on each individual and case.

 

>but the guy stop PMO for 10days

There's no laws when a wet dream may occur, it depends on the frequency that guy used to masturbate his age, if prolonged a fantasy, or if he watched a movie with a hot girl in it, even if she was wearing all her clothes. Anything could trigger it. The point is unless you can say for certain you can control your dreams, which is like saying you can control your sexuality, there's naff all you can do about it.

I will agree with clumsy in that there is a chaser effect... Is it good for our end goals, perhaps not regarding the chaser effect, but if you can overcome that, one it naturally clears the system, two you haven't used porn. And that's the point.

 

Thanks. BTW so even constipation shouldn't cause a sperm leakage in a normal valve(non PMO )?

Hope to never PMO again.

 

In my opinion, no, but severe constipation will put pressure on the prostate. That's why diet also is very importat, eat simple foods, easy to digest. Avoid constipation-foods. You'll be alright.

 

Thanks. I do eat clean. I will wait and see if it stops after 90days.

 

How old are you? When did you start masturbation? Did you masturbate to fantasy and/or porn or without? how many times a day?

If you started at age 11-13 and you're over 20 now, don't expect too much from 90 days because then you will most likely be disappointed

 

If you drink a gallon of water before bed, will you be up all night pissing instead of sleeping?
Lusty thoughts are the water, the more you have, the higher the odds you will be releasing sperm or prostatic fluid at night.

Ive been reading a lot about Brahmacharya lately because that is the path I am taking. Here is some knowledge from a high esteemed man.
Maybe some of this will help understand.

The word 'Kundalini' (A derivative of the Sanskrit word 'Kundala' - meaning coil, denoting a three and half coiled snake)

also called serpent power is a term that is used to denote potential energy of the realm of 'Prakriti' (creative principle

of nature) present within man in the dormant form. Awakening of this creative energy to the state where it rises to higher

planes and becomes available to the person for harnessing into productivity is referred to as 'Kundalini awakening'.

Yoga tells us that this enormous energy is present within all living beings including animals in a dormant and passive

state. In man, the dormant resting place of Kundalini is the Mûlâdhâra chakra the region located near the basal end of the

spinal column (coccygeal region). The ascent of Kundalini and its movement to higher planes occurs through the 'Sushumna

Nâdi' (An important astral energy channel within the spinal chord) and hence this is possible only in the case of man who

has an erect and vertical spine unlike animals who have a curved and horizontal spine (The reason why Yogi's sit erect

with their spine straight during Prânayâma & while meditating).

The human birth thus signifies that stage of evolution where the Almighty Lord has given a chance for the Jivâtma

(embodied soul) to rise above the animal senses and reclaim its original and default state of God-bliss through the

process of self-realization. But for self-realization to fructify, man has to rise above his earthly senses, tendencies

and take his vital power to higher planes and unearth his creative potential represented by 'Kundalini' in these higher

regions.

Kundalini awakening and Brahmacharya are very intricately connected and complete awakening cannot take place without

Brahmacharya. We must remember here that the word 'Kundalini' is only a symbolic representation of the dormant creative

potential in man. The sleeping three and half coiled snake that is used to denote Kundalini is only a symbol of the

sleeping and dormant creative power within man which he has not been properly harnessed. As a snake becomes active and

powerful when aroused from slumber, man's creativity and genius shine further to the full use of his creative power

represented by Kundalini. In a man rooted to the senses and losing much of his vital energy through base sexual activity

and other earthly pleasures, there is no chance for his creative power to get conserved and transmuted into something

higher beyond the material realm. Since by losing one's semen and thereby losing one's Prâna, all vitality and energy is

lost, man becomes ineligible to get in touch with his higher powers and talents inherent within the Atman (soul) - A

prerequisite for superlative achievements in both the materialistic and spiritual planes.

Conservation and transmutation of one's vital energy (represented by semen in the gross form) into 'Ojas' (divine astral

power) continuously for a period of twelve years without break results in the complete and total awakening of the latent

superpower present within under God's grace. The immense amount of conserved Prâna then helps Kundalini gradually ascend

to higher planes (represented by the seven chakras, denoting the seven worlds) and brings out the more powerful and subtle

powers represented by the soul in the form of 'Siddhis' (supernormal powers). If the Yogi ignores these powers and focuses

this mammoth energy at realizing himself, it becomes possible to achieve the objective of self-realization and thus

fructify the aim of human existence.

The Brahmachari Yogi concentrates on a life of absolute Brahmacharya through adequate physical activity, intellectual

work and God-meditation, following which his Kundalini automatically gets awakened through God's grace in course of time

and he becomes very eligible to realize his self. A Kundalini Yogi works towards awakening his dormant power through a

variety of 'kriya-s' and also reaches the same goal. Both are like the two faces of the same coin.

The changes that occur by the complete awakening of Kundalini or the enlightenment that follows further to a life of

unbroken Brahmacharya with God-meditation are one and the same. To put it short, all powers of the soul get manifest and

man realizes his oneness with the Almighty creator, finally to merge into him and complete the purpose of the human

existence, never to be reborn again.

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A Brahmachari must indulge in a balanced, nutritious diet, which is simple and easy to digest. An ideal way of achieving

this would be to take adequate amounts of wheat/ corn based, steamed or cooked food for breakfast/lunch and a salad

consisting of as many fresh fruits and raw veggies as possible for dinner. You can have a cup of milk in the morning and

evening with a cup of yogurt following lunch. Eating moderate amounts of butter and ghee are also suggested.

The basic aim behind such a diet is to reduce the dependence of the mind on the sense of taste as a source of pleasure.

It is said that he who controls the tongue develops control over the other sense organs and Brahmacharya becomes easier.

DO AVOID:
1. Spicy, hot, sour and pungent food items and additives.
2. Onion & garlic to the best possible extent.
3. Oily, fatty foods in general (ghee and butter in the raw form, taken in small quantities are exceptions)
4. Fermented or overly seasoned foods (fresh yogurt is an exception)
5. All kinds of meat & eggs.
6. Coffee, tea, aerated drinks, tobacco, alcohol and drugs.

The above foods are to be strictly avoided as they increase the 'Rajasic' and 'Tamasic' tendencies in man, thereby

igniting his sensual tendencies.

From my own experience I have realized the fact that shunning the above results in a calmer, brighter and a serene state

of mind. It takes a few months of strict practice to realize the benefits and joy one accrues from following a 'sâthvic'

diet. With constant effort and commitment, it is really not difficult to achieve the same.

By shifting onto a pure ‘sâthvic’ diet, one will get better overall physical & mental health. You become more cheerful

and less prone to agitation and restlessness. This is very important for a man aiming to win over his animalistic

tendencies. Revert for clarifications if any

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1. Semen in Urine:
Semen in urine is generally associated with the disorder ‘Congestive Prostatitis’. This is further to the prostate gland

being subjected to congestion due to a considerable period of erection and non-ejaculation, heavy vibration (such as hard

riding on a motorcycle/ horse etc.) This could be onetime, periodic or chronic. Since you state this has been there for

some time, it is important that you immediately consult a competent Urologist and get the problem solved.

2. Brahmacharya/ Prostate/ Night erections:
Now coming to the topic of Brahmacharya, those who are/ have followed a path of abstinence for a long time at the

physical level only, abhorring sex/ masturbation but with their thoughts and emotions constantly seeking/ being stimulated

at the sex plane cause a contrary reaction within their system. It is very important to aim at Brahmacharya in thought,

word and deed. Mere physical repression can result in various disorders at the mental and physical levels. The sex force

is a mammoth power. It can either be let free or if dammed by the concept of Brahmacharya, has to be properly transmuted

into a creative/ productive work force.

Erections during the course of sleep at night are perfectly normal and healthy, even for a Brahmachari. This has got

nothing to do with sexual arousal. This always happens during REM sleep (Rapid Eye Movement sleep). They occur on average

every 90 minutes or so and typically last around 25 minutes, about the length of an episode of REM sleep. They have little

to do with sex or erotic dreams, or with anything you may have been doing during the day.

Expulsion of semen in sleep is another matter. It is generally a product of unfulfilled sexual desires in the waking

state. Also possible is that your prostate might have got infected to the point of malfunction resulting in sporadic

production of the prostatic fluid.

Diseases/ abnormalities a sign of negative karma, due to misdeeds. Man’s ascension in the path of Brahmacharya is his

journey back to purity and divinity. Negative karma stored in his karmic account has to get worked out if he is to ascend

higher. Some of these karma’s are so strong that there is no way out but to go through suffering and thereby cleanse them.

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The vital energy or ‘Prana’ in a person basically exists in three states.

1. NORMAL STATE OR SUBTLE STATE: In the normal state, vital energy is spread over the entire body (in blood, bones,

muscle, nerves etc…) giving us energy to indulge in various day to day activities. Pranic energy in this state is integral

with the entire body in a state of harmony and union. The body is fully geared and in availability of life force to

perform action efficiently. Based on the kind of activity we indulge in, life force flows to that particular part to

perform the action. For example when an athlete gears up to run a marathon, his life force focuses into his leg muscles.

When a boxer is in the ring, his life force centers around his arm muscles, when a chess player in midst of a game, his

life force is concentrated in his brain and so on.

2. GROSS STATE OR SEMEN STATE:
When man is under sexual excitement, his life force or Prana is withdrawn from every part of the body and focused into

the sex center. Life energy which was earlier in a subtle state of amalgamation with his blood, flesh etc… in the NORMAL

STATE, separates from those regions to a large extent and flows to his sex center. This sends a signal for his testes to

produce sperm. The prostate gland gets ready with the prostatic fluid. The Cowper’s glands ready up the Bulbo Urethral

fluid. Man is now fully geared up to engage in the sex act. Almost all his vital energy, except the basic energy required

for his vital organs to function has now come down to the sex center. Energy is in a sate of wait to propel semen out of

his system. Note how sexually aggressive a person becomes when he is fully aroused in the sex plane. This is further to

all his Prana in a state of sexual focus. In this state man cannot efficiently indulge in any other activity other than

the sexual act. Ask a fully aroused man to play a game of chess… he might not even remember the movements! Semen in this

state is the linear, gross representation of his Prana or vital energy in liquid form. Energy which was earlier in

electricity like form has now become physical, embodied in liquid semen.
In a man who constantly resides in the sex plane, his Prana is mostly in this gross semen form. This is the reason such

people cannot effectively carry out any other form of work. The nature of gross semen is expellation. Its sole purpose is

to reach outside to aid reproduction. This is called the ‘ejaculatory mode’. It cannot perform any other function in this

state. If not let out immediately, it will flow out in a wet dream.
Once in the ‘ejaculatory mode’ semen can never be fully reconverted back to Pranic energy. The sexual glands secreted

various physical secretions to manufacture gross semen. All these processes are not fully reversible even through

transmutation and meditation. There are severe limitations. A considerable volume of vital energy will flow out,

immaterial of meditation or celibacy, once it has reached this final gross form due to sexual duress.

3. VERY SUBTLE STATE OR OJAS STATE:
When a yogi leads a life of true celibacy, conserving all his vital energy and transcending it from its NORMAL STATE to a

highly concentrated, very subtle state through techniques such as meditation, asana, Pranayama etc… His Prana becomes very

subtle in nature. Its intensity increases to a great extent. It is akin to gross water being heated and converted to

superheated-gaseous steam in a distillation plant. Vital energy now has enormous potential energy. It rises up like steam

does and reaches his ‘AJNA CHAKRA’ or the point between his eyebrows. This is called ‘OJAS STATE’. The full power of this

state is said to come to a Brahmachari further to 12 years of true celibacy, without wastage of even a single drop of

semen. His Pranic energy is now totally sublimated. It gives him the ability to enter the metaphysical word/ astral

planes. He can get astral visions, knowledge of creation, god etc… Advanced Urdhvareta yogis get powers such as ‘Trikala

Gnyana’ or knowledge of the past, present and future. Many ancient sages in this state had ‘Ashta Siddhis’ or eight

superhuman powers like Levitation (ability to fly), astral travel, ability to make the body microscopic or macroscopic,

‘Bhuta vidya’ or the power to converse with wild animals and win their obedience, Listening to sounds many miles away

(Doorashravana), Power of sight ranging to hundreds of miles (Dooradristi) and many more
(I will give a detailed description of all the Siddhis for the information of celibates in another answer sheet) Most

importantly, the yogi gets vision of God and is blessed with self-realization. This is the highest state.

Celibates should understand what exactly sublimation is all about. Urdhvareta kriya in reality is not conversion of gross

semen into Ojas. It is conversion of subtle/ normal Prana into Ojas, by preventing the formation of gross semen. If you

continuously indulge in sexual activity that brings down Prana from its NORMAL STATE to a lower GROSS/SEMEN STATE,

sublimation becomes difficult and roundabout. It must again be brought back to its NORMAL STATE and then taken to the VERY

SUBTLE/ OJAS STATE.

The answer to what happens in a man at the start of celibacy lies in this fact. At the start of celibacy when man shuns

sex stimuli, his Prana or vital energy comfortably rests in the NORMAL/SUBTLE state. Earlier it was being brought down to

form semen. Now that need has been removed. The body stops production of earlier quantities of semen. Initial stages of

celibacy do not really involve re-absorption. Most volume of semen in gross form at the start of celibacy actually flows

out. It is due to lack of further production by which energy levels go up. This is exactly why for celibacy to bear fruit

say beyond three months or so, sublimation into OJAS is necessary. Till this time the body is actually not in a state of

re-absorption. It is only in a state of non-production and in a state of harmonization of existing Prana at the SUBTLE

STATE. Further to this, production of gross semen goes on reducing and formation of more and more Prana goes on increasing

(provided the celibacy is true and genuine)

So when we say sublimation of semen into higher forms, it is really sublimation of Prana in NORMAL STATE into OJAS STATE.

For Prana to reach NORMAL STATE, man should desist from sexual excitement thereby prevent formation of GROSS/ SEMEN STATE.

In an Urdhvareta yogi, this is fully achieved. His body does not produce gross semen at all. The vital energy required to

sustain his body and intellect are fed from that part of his Prana. The rest is fully converted to OJAS.


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Q: Since eating eggs is to be avoided by the Brahmachari, what is the alternate source of protein?
A: Further to honest Brahmacharya for a certain period of time, various changes start occurring in the body of the

Brahmachari. To begin with, tissues start repairing themselves fueled by the increased presence of 'veerya' or semen that

is being reabsorbed into the blood. The nectar like essence present in semen that gives great strength/ youthfulness and

power cannot be matched by any other medicine or food product. It is for this reason that the statement 'What one loses

further to the wastage of semen can never be regained' is cent percent true.

The re-absorbtion of semen into blood slowly starts restoring every deteriorating part of the body back to its state of

complete health and well being while augmenting blood flow, Prana (vital energy) and overall health & strength. Further to

continued celibacy, the Brahmachari will find that he does not require as much food as he used to consume earlier to

maintain health, strength and vigor. Unlike his former state where there was continuous wastage of semen and hence the

need to consume more food, the body slowly starts to become self sufficient in retaining the various vitamins, minerals

and proteins that it needs to a larger extent. It is actually a misnomer among people that we need to eat much food to

stay healthy. The reality is that a balanced, nutritious and wholesome diet consisting of the right amount of protein,

carbohydrate, minerals and vitamins can fully be achieved through a vegetarian diet. I will suggest a pure vegetarian diet

that will help in maintaining health, be conducive to the practice of Brahmacharya and provide the required amount of

protein to sustain physical exercise. Minor variations can be applied to the diet based on one's personal liking :

EARLY MORNING: 1~2 glasses of water (before the practice of yoga or other exercises) with a glass of milk

7 ~ 8.30 A.M: Breakfast & one cup of boiled Dal (Tur Dal) and one banana.

1.15 P.M: Lunch comprising of 3-4 whole wheat chapati's or roti's taken with a vegetable gravy made of either beans,

horse gram, green gram etc.. followed by a cup of buttermilk, yogurt or curds and another banana.

6 ~ 7 P.M: Another glass of cow's milk followed by dinner consisting of some cooked food with different fruits and raw

vegetables such as cabbage, beetroot, cucumber, carrot etc..

This is a diet that ensures all ingredients required for the well being of the body are met and is fully 'Sattwic'.

Eating a 'Sattwic' or non-stimulating diet is very important if one wishes to succeed in long Brahmacharya. It makes the

mind calm, serene and tranquil. Another secret to ensure excellent health and strength is never to load the stomach fully

with food. Eating excess food will only increase the quantity of faeces or stool. The body does not and cannot absorb more

than what it requires. A wonderful method to determine what quantity of food one must eat is - " Consider the stomach to

be made of four parts. Fill two parts with nutritious, wholesome food (half the stomach) one part with water and leave the

fourth part empty so that 'Prana' or vital energy can move around and effectively aid in digestion. This is a golden

formula to ensure health and strength.

Lord Krishna tells us:-

"Success in yoga is not for him who eats too much or too little, nor for him who sleeps too much or too little" - The

Bhagavad-Gita Chater-VI/ Verse 16

" To him who is temperate in eating and in sleeping and in being awake, Yoga becomes the destroyer of misery" - The

Bhagavad-Gita Chapter-VI/ Verse 18

Egg and meat, onion, garlic and hot/ pungent/ sour foodstuff are to be avoided during the initial few years of practice

as they have a strong tendency to agitate, irritate and cloud the mind with aggression. Such a mind becomes wholly unfit

for the practice of Brahmacharya.

It takes some time for the body to get used to a change in diet. Once this is accomplished, the Brahmachari yogi will

find more than sufficient energy to indulge in all forms of physical and mental work and will in fact be left with energy

even at the end of the day. Anybody who observes a few months of unbroken celibacy will start to see that they hardly get

tired even while performing the most strenuous of activities. What is required is determination and love for the concept

of Brahmacharya following which all merits will gradually start clinging to the celibate in course of time.

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Yes, there are causes for that long list, Clumsy. Yet to pin it all on masturbation is fucking stupid and you know it. Your mind is so clouded by this anti-masturbation crusade you're waging you're coming out with Kellogg-esque nonsense. Yes, Kellogg was a nutter. He gave us corn flakes yes, but he was still quite batty in his ideas.

You come across as very self-righteous in these posts, dude. Is self-righteousness connected to an over indulgence with madame palm and her five lovely daughters?

Again, I know you mean well, friend. Don't take my words as being harsh, but these ideas are just way off the mark. You certainly know how to rile up a good debate, mate.