fucking wet dream

This is so interesting. I'm a fan of vegetarian diets. Humans are not made for paleo, or meat based diets. They too, have their benefits, sure, but human beings are starch eaters. Our tongues does not respond to amino acids (meat) but to carbohydrates. We don't need 120 grams of protein every day, and we are not meant to be brutes of 200pounds lean mass.

 

I don't think that wet dreams break your nofap.

 

Yes, self-righteousness is also caused by masturbation. I have a lot to work on, I'm still not as easy-going and patient as I wish to be. But I'm so sure, so absolutely convinced that masturbation is the biggest challenge to western civilization, it's nothing natural about social anxiety and sexual perversions.

And maybe today's competition orientated society might contribute to anxiety and depression, but what caused competition orientated and sick society in the first place? Masturbation and vicious, powerful men.

It would be interesting to take dogs, and make them ejaculate 5 times a day during developmental years and see how they become, but I believe that would be far too cruel.

My friend, I'm being absolute honest: I do believe this about masturbation, it's such a great violation of physical law, it's such a big error. We were never meant to ejaculate and be stimulated this way, never. And the entire nature of human has been twisted.

 

And I can feel a more balanced energy flow throughout my body nowadays, before my energy would be centered around my genital area. I feel like I have more control of my own physical body.

 

I haven't had one in my entire life - that may be because I started masturbating at 14 and having sex at 16, but I've not experienced one thus far. Not saying it won't happen now I'm abstinent, but I'm yet to experience it and I'm now in my mid 40's.

So do you believe that we should only have sex for the purpose of procreation?


Just out of curiosity Clumsy, how long have you actually been abstinent for?

 

I'm kind of in the same boat as you! I had been masturbating before I even produced semen, so when I did begin to produce semen, there was always regular ejaculation. No need for wet dreams I suppose, and I never got them until this year, when I discovered NoFap.

 

I belong to a school of thought that says everything is natural, even plastic is natural as it's been designed by us, natural organic beings using our naturally evolved brains.

So in that respect, of course wet dreams are natural, and they may affect people in different ways - just because one person considers it a negative experience, doesn't mean we all should.

Our issues are our own - we all have different tastes in food, clothing, music etc. and our uniqueness is what makes us human. Not everyone's world will fall apart over some lost ejaculate. If it's no big deal for you, then it's no big deal ... if someone else says it's a problem, then the problem belongs to them.

 

Sorry, but I have disagree .... again.

Human beings have been around for 2 million years. For 1.9 of those 2 million million years, our diets were composed primarily of fat, protein, and low carb veggies (fiber). The occasional fruit (usually berries) were our primary source of carbohydrates, and that was a very small fraction of our diets. The Paleo diet is actually a pretty close representation of our ancestral diet, and I'm definitely a fan of it.

Carbs, including starches, were only recently introduced into our diets; this happened about 10,000 years ago with the advent of agriculture. This means that our organisms have not had time to adapt to a high carb diet.

This is pretty evident by the huge rise in obesity, diabetes, and heart disease since the USDA has suggested carbs should make up the majority of our diets (bottom of the food pyramid) around 20 years ago.

I'm on my phone now, so I can't post any links, but I will soon as I get on my computer. Unlike you, I like to base my arguments on actual fact, not opinion-based-"facts".

 

I'm not convinced that's entirely true - human beings seem physiologically closer to frugivore apes than any of the other species and during our earliest evolution probably thrived on high carb diets - it's been suggested that the reason we see in colour is so we can recognise fruits, and it's also been suggested that our taste buds prefer sweet foods because of our natural inclination towards them.

We adapted our environments to survive events such as ice ages, but before that we only ate a very small amount of animal protein - usually in the form of bugs and similarly small creatures. We added larger animals to our diet before the advent of farming, but that doesn't make it the diet we were "designed" for.

I'm very big on diet, and think that paleo eating can produce some great results, and I certainly agree we should avoid dairy and white carbs, but I don't agree that it's an entirely accurate philosophy in itself.

 

Yes I know that. I was eating Paleo before, and I stand very humble in this, because it's hard to know what the perfect diet is. However, carbohydrate is the most effective energy source when training - low carb vs high carb on training, high carb wins.

Our teeth is definitely designed for not eating meat, our tongue, as i said does not respond to amino acids, but to carbohydrate.

So you cannot be sure that we are all meat eaters just because we have always eat meat, its not that simple. It really is not. We cannot be sure that we ate right on stone age, because we also ate little to low calory, we never gorged in food.

And I think that low carb (people who exclude fruits also, eat only egg, meat, fish) look incredibly pale, paleo diet people does not though.

I also feel fresh when I eat vegetables and rice and maybe lentils. Meat, seafood and fish leaves an odor in my mouth. And it's important to remember that one diet does not fit all.

 

Yes actually I do.

 

Yes agree, and in most other species, taste buds reveals what diet that animal should consist on.
Again, humans does not respond to amino acids. That is a pretty clear evidence that our diet, at least shouldn't consist fully on meat.

And Paleo's fail to admit that even carbohydrate eaters, people who eat mostly carbs, they get many of the similar benefits, they can eat how much they want but still lose weight, they get rid off diabetes, obesity and cardiovascular disease.

 

Why did you ignore the other question?

Although it doesn't matter as I realised it's in your profile ... you've been abstinent since the 3rd of August and yet you post like you're an expert and a condescending know-it-all.

Nuff said I think.

 

I have been abstinent since 31th december and that day I only relapsed once, before that I had gone on a two month streak. That is not my report but my friends.

And I do know pretty much of this because I study it everyday.

 

So someone else is using your account?

 

Not now, but then.

I started my reboot 2012 in october or so. Went three months nofap, then I got depressed (because i didnt know so much about reboot, i thought 90 day and it was done, so i stopped believing in it) so i fapped in moderation 2013, but quit in october 2013, relapsed once 31th december, since then I haven't relapsed even once, except wet dreams, and now gotten rid of wet dreams. So I'm 9 months into my reboot, almost 12 if you can oversee that little relapse without porn in 31th december 2013.

No masturbation, porn, fantasy as little as possible (ofc some erotic fantasy pop up sometimes but I'm good at not following it). I'm completely free from wet dreams since probably 3-4 months. I have never been as far as I am now. But I'm still suffering from mild withdrawal symptoms.

 

You joined this site in August and claimed to have masturbated 30 times this year and that you were a week off a relapse. The date corresponds to the date of your last fap in your profile.

http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?19211-A-very-severe-case-My-Story&p=100149#post100149

If someone else posted the above, it brings into question why you allowed other people to say lies about you - if you posted it it brings into question your personal honesty.

It don't add up.

 

I have posted several things not coming from me, but reports from other guys.
I post whatever I want, I report my friends progress, I've currently two IRL friends on the wagon with me and I've discussed these people in other threads. Why should I lie? To be seen as an expert? I'm 9 months into my reboot.

 

And since you dismiss my knowledge, can you please tell me what I've said that you think is so wrong? Cause all I have said in this thread is true. Or my personal opinion. I know how to avoid wet dreams, another guy posted the same advices as me, if you check it up. I don't know how many books I've read, they all give the same advice. Why do you feel like you must dismiss this? You base your knowledge on yourbrainonporn and this site, my friend, that is not enough. Study. Get your facts straight.

 

It was your first post and you didn't say it was someone else's report. In fact, why would you impersonate someone else on your first post?

It seems to me that you're full of shit, trying to be superior by adjusting your own figures to make you sound more established ... and as such you would do far better to focus on your own side of the fence rather than continually pointing out where everyone else is going wrong.