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Dating and toxic women

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Wave tamer, May 13, 2023.

  1. Wave tamer

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    I’ve been pushing myself and encouraged by my therapist to use dating apps and work on new relationships with women. It’s been great to get me away from the isolation and self petty sex addiction and porn causes and fills that need for connection a lot better. The problem is in the past I’ve dated, cheats, a psychopath and a borderline. I’m paranoid and traumatised myself so worry about letting dangerous people into my life. I started dating someone I was attracted to, was driven, intelligent and seemed kind. It was exciting to choose new dates to do and gave me a new buzz trying to be a cool fun boyfriend. The danger is I’m lonely as f .. so just having someone to rant or chat to was great. But was it right. A few lies seems to pop up about her past, but I put it down to nerves and her not wanting to get too deep straight away. But the other day she really contradicted this kind image she had put on and came out with a few things that were completely red flags. It really put me off and confused me. I’m not letting this person in my life so called it off it seemed the only option to trust my gut. The problem was is I’d had a few drink 2 nights before and this always makes me feel a mess and anxious/ paranoid. I hadn’t acted out in a few weeks and in previous relationships I’d split up at times so I could act out and book an escort. I think I’m scared of allowing myself to fall for someone and be vulnerable but also want to keep my guard up and wits about me to set boundaries and not let predators seduce me. I need to trust my gut, but it’s so difficult when my moods are massively up and down. Anyway broke up and feel gutted and confused. I also feel that pushing someone away gives me validation and control that it hurts them and they want me back.
     
  2. FormerLeatherneck

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    You did the right thing bro. I’ve had similar experiences like yourself letting the wrong woman into my life. You gotta have boundaries and not ignore red flags. As the saying goes “ when someone shows you who they are believe them”. Too many guys because of a lack of self respect and a scarcity mindset ignore things, only to suffer more later by doing that.
     
  3. Wave tamer

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    Thanks dude, It feels right but painful, I’ve got my standards and trust is massive in a relationship. I read that with growth comes pain. So just got to keep pushing. Realistically I’d feel better to get to a level where I’m confident to chat up a pretty girl in life rather than online dating. It’s a swamp for mental health and predators. Onward and upwards I deserve someone special I’ve got a lot about me and need to remember that. Just tired doing it all on my own sometimes
     
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  4. Wave tamer

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    What happened in your relationship with a toxic girl; it can be a total head f can’t it? But makes you wiser to it though I guess.
     
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  5. FormerLeatherneck

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    My case was nothing special, like many other guys who've made the same mistake as myself, it was just simply her showing who she really is and me not wanting to deal with reality and walking away. Paul Elam talks about dealing with Borderline women all the time. Check out his videos on youtube, his knowledge is Gold.
     
  6. I went through a MGTOW phase throughout all four years of high school. Mostly because I all of a sudden came to the conclusion that high school that these types of high school romances never last and if they do it's a one in a million. Unfortunately, I probably depraved myself of necessary experiences so I can better understand situations and build myself up more like @FormerLeatherneck for example.
     
  7. Wave tamer

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    Thanks dude, I’ll check that out it’s useful to know about them. But I’m so warn out with cluster B personalities and can get obsessed connecting dots. I seem to be like a target for them. And I think I get addicted to them easily. I have major trust issues now and don’t want to mess it up with legit women. Appreciate the support
     
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  8. FormerLeatherneck

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    Until i started watching a lot of psych related videos like Paul's, it never dawned on me that Cluster B's are numerous out there! Sometimes you can spot them quick but some also hide it well and those are the ones you have to be careful for.
     
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  9. Why do I get the feeling that therapists/psychologists are secretly the most cluster b people to ever exist? Either this or in every therapy session I went to, I lie my ass off 95% of the time and got kicked out. Because I don't trust anybody with my mental health. It's treated as a joke anyway.
     
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  10. InappropriateUsername

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    Feel ya bro. I’ve dated some crazies too and felt the same. It’s tough b/c you do get paranoid, but you still want to meet a nice girl.

    But the fact is if you’re dealing with a porn addiction, YOU is all fucked up and could that possibly be the reason you’re connecting with fucked up women. Fucking right Sherlock.

    it’s okay to feel lonely but you have to get to a place where it doesn’t override your own preservation. Work on you a little more.

    you did the right thing cutting it off b/c your gut told you too. But you do need to work on the mood swings which could probably be done by working on the porn thing.
     
  11. I accept the fact that I get a little lonely from time to time, but I do this to myself porn addiction has got me messed up, I get kicked out of therapy a lot for lying, Opening up has always been a struggle for me, And I don't think I want to date while I still struggle with porn, and I am still unsure if there are any nice women that would want to be with a guy like me. I turn on easy, yet I don't want to have sex with any woman unless I know she deeply loves and cares about me, possibly enough to become my wife.
     
  12. Wave tamer

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    Thanks man, I watched a few of his last night and she seemed to tick most boxes. I’ve recently listened to a great audiobook called the cult of one Richard Grannon. After some of these dates It can leave me feeling right so every time a woman falls for me it’s not actually real they’re just nutters. But I’m feeling sorry for myself… I’m a good catch but yea a bit more work on myself getting a more stable life in place. It’s been good I can turn to a forum and a few professionals for words of advice. Rather than text her back.
     
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    Yea I agree. I’m a long way from where I was, but I’m still having the odd urge for femdom (a woman seducing me and me surrendering to her snake like charm.) So I’m probably inviting it in subconsciously. I also think we’re given the same lessons from life/god/the universe till we learn. And it was just seeing how I handled it. I feel that being a kind person with values is important to allow myself to be vulnerable at times for connection, but not too soft to not set boundaries and put my needs first.
     
  14. onceaking

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    Does that mean all the women you've dated are cheats, psychopaths and a borderline?
     
  15. onceaking

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    It's a bit of a waste of time and money to lie in therapy. I think therapy is overrated and not everyone needs it but if you are using it it's best to be honest.
     
  16. Wave tamer

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    No not at all that would probably make me a narcissist lol To think everyone had problems other than me. Some were pretty cool, or just plain, we all have a few issues myself included, which I’m putting the work in to deal with. I had a really bad experience with a psycho girlfriend which effected me a lot. I had a fling with a self confessed borderline but wasn’t that attracted to her so broke it off. I bumped into her years later at AA and she’d forgot some of the messed up stories she’d told me to try and get me to white knight and trauma bond her. Looking back there was a lot of gaslighting me to try and break me down and to commit.
     
  17. InappropriateUsername

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    There are good women out there. Be patient, heal thyself and go forward.
     
  18. onceaking

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    That's good. I was going to say if all the women you dated were like that you were probably doing something to attract such women. Some people have issues that they haven't dealt with and some people go through life afraid to face them. Sounds like some of your dates were such people.
     
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  19. FormerLeatherneck

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    There are, but unfortunately it’s a minuscule amount ie. 1 maybe 2 percent.
     
  20. InappropriateUsername

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    I think that number is a little low. Sure, women are different and have their oddities that we as men sometimes don’t understand but most are not toxic or true batshit crazy.

    you have to also keep in mind your own vibe. If you’re insecure, dealing with issues, have your own baggage etc., that’s what you will attract.
     

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