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Why are you so concerned about hiding the truth? The truth is molestation is highly correlated to homosexual orientation. That is a fact. It may be uncomfortable but it's a fact nonetheless. He or any other person in his situation or a similar situation can make any decision whatsoever, but it's not an informed decision if facts are deliberately hidden.

Again, I strongly encourage him to take whatever decision he sees fit, i'm giving him options to chose from, while you are deliberately trying to hide options from him.

Childhood abuse/ molestation is very often plagued with misrecollection or partial loss of memory and the child's view of the world gets severely skewed.

Don't know what your problem with me is and why you see fit to continue attacking me for my profession.

 

You have yet to answer my question:

 

I'm sorry, what?

Except it doesn't apply here.

 

What makes you think he already isn't?

He seems to very well acquainted with a life of homosexuality and it's clear he enjoys it and has displayed a high degree of maturity in going so far so as to pick a partner.

And yet you bombard the tbread with irrelevant information and say you urge him to take whatever decision "he sees fit".

Scrolling back, I can't ever seem to recall him asking us to help him on deciding whether or not his homosexuality is normal and yet you're the only person here revolving around that point.

I agree. This was uncalled for. However judging by your roundabout behaviour here, I'd never assume you were a professional!

 

No, but i've researched the literature on it.

Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescence Molestion in Heterosexual adn Homosexual Persons https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1010243318426

In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.

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More context (previous researches) for the second research paper (Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescence Molestion in Heterosexual and Homosexual Persons ):

Bradford et al. (1994) reported that 25% of 1,925 lesbians surveyed had been sexually abused or raped as children. They said that 31% of the perpetrators were male relatives, 45% other known men, 45% male strangers, and 1% women (it is not known why this totaled 122%). In interviewing with 35 lesbian women in alcoholic recovery, 16 (46%) revealed sexual abuse, even though they were not asked about sexual abuse (Hall, 1996). The onset of the molestation ranged from <4 years to 12 years, with 10 of the women being younger than 7 years at the time of molestation. Fourteen of the 16womenweremolestedonlybymen.Onewasmolestedbymultipleintrafamilial males and one extrafamilial female. Another was molested by her father and by one extrafamilial female.

Simari and Baskin (1982) determined the extent of incestuous experiences in 54 gay men and 29 gay women. Twenty-five (46%) of the gay men reported experiencing incest, all of the homosexual sort, between 9 and 16 years of age with a mean age of 13 years. Twenty-four (96%) of the 25 men who experienced incest viewed themselves as homosexual before the incest. Eleven (38%) of the 29 gay women reported experiencing incest, heterosexual in seven (64%) of the cases, with two (29%) of these women regarding themselves as homosexual before the incest. Four (36%) of the 11 women experienced homosexual incest, with 3 (25%) of them regarding themselves as homosexual before the incest.

In research by Doll et al. (1992), 1,001 homosexual and bisexual men in sexuallytransmitteddiseaseclinicswereinterviewed.Thirty-sevenpercentofthese men reported having been forced or encouraged to have sex by an older and more powerful person, before the age of 19. The median age of these events was 10 years. The median age difference between the younger and older participants in the sex acts was 11 years. In 94% of the cases, the older person was male, in 5% female, and 1% involved both male and female perpetrators. Cameron and Cameron (1995) surveyed 5,182 adults and found a history of incest in 22.3% of homosexual men, 1.2% of heterosexual men, 3.4% of homosexual women, and 0.3% of heterosexual women. The authors did not provide any information about the age of molestation.

Cameron and Cameron pointed out that their findings are consistent with the findings of Bell et al. (1981) who reported a history of sibling incest in 15.6% of homosexual men, 9.0% of heterosexual men, 10.4% of homosexual women, and 5.6% of homosexual women. Bell et al. did not specify the gender of the other partner in the incestuous acts.

Gundlach (1977) surveyed 225 lesbian and 233 heterosexual women, and found that 30% of the heterosexual women and 21% of the lesbians had been raped. Of the 30 women who had been raped before the age of 14, 26 had an adult homosexual orientation while 9 had an adult heterosexual orientation.

On the basis of the previous literature, it would appear that gay men and lesbian women have a greater history of molestation than do heterosexual persons. The perspective from the previous studies, however, is unclear. Not all of the cited studies employed a heterosexual control group, specified the criteria of molestation, specified the gender of the perpetrator, specified the present sexual preference, and that before the molestation, and employed both gay men and lesbian participants. Furthermore, some of the studies focused only upon rape or incest.


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Prevalence of Childhood Sexual Abuse among Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual People: A Meta-Analysis http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10538712.2015.1006746

This is the full text (on discussion):

This meta-analysis revealed no significant difference between the prevalence of CSA across lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals. This was true for both sexes; the prevalence of CSA among male sexual minorities was 22.2% and for female sexual minorities was 36.2%. These values appear to differ widely from those of heterosexual people: Pereda and colleagues (2009b) found that the prevalence of CSA was 7.9% in men and 19.7% in women in general sample, and Stoltenborgh and colleagues (2011) found that the prevalence of CSA was 7.6% in men and 18.0% in women. Thus, we might conclude that the prevalence of CSA among sexual minorities is higher than that among heterosexuals.



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The prevalence of sexual assault against people who identify as Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual in the United States: A systematic review http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3118668/

This article systematically reviews 75 studies that examine the prevalence of sexual assault victimization among gay or bisexual (GB) men, and lesbian or bisexual (LB) women, in the United States. All studies were published between 1989 and 2009 and report the results of quantitative research. The authors reviewed the reported prevalence of lifetime sexual assault victimization (LSA), and where available, childhood sexual assault (CSA), adult sexual assault (ASA), intimate partner sexual assault (IPSA), and hate crime-related sexual assault (HC). The studies were grouped into those that used a probability or census sampling technique (n=25) and those that used a non-probability or “community-based” sampling technique (n=50). A total of 139,635 GLB respondents participated in the underlying studies reviewed. Prevalence estimates of LSA ranged from 15.6–85.0% for LB women, and 11.8–54.0% for GB men. Considering the median estimates derived from the collective set of studies reviewed, LB women were more likely to report CSA, ASA, LSA and IPSA than GB men, whereas GB men were more likely to report HC than LB women. Across all studies, the highest estimates reported were for LSA of LB women (85%), CSA of LB women (76.0%), and CSA of GB men (59.2%). With some exceptions, studies using non-probability samples reported higher sexual assault prevalence rates than did population-based or census sample studies. The challenges of assessing sexual assault victimization with GLB populations are discussed, as well as the implications for practice, policy and future research.

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A meta-analysis of disparities in childhood sexual abuse, parental physical abuse, and peer victimization among sexual minority and sexual nonminority individuals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21680921

Sexual minority individuals were on average 3.8, 1.2, 1.7, and 2.4 times more likely to experience sexual abuse, parental physical abuse, or assault at school or to miss school through fear, respectively. Moderation analysis showed that disparities between sexual minority and sexual nonminority individuals were larger for (1) males than females for sexual abuse, (2) females than males for assault at school, and (3) bisexual than gay and lesbian for both parental physical abuse and missing school through fear. Disparities did not change between the 1990s and the 2000s.

CONCLUSIONS: The higher rates of abuse experienced by sexual minority youths may be one of the driving mechanisms underlying higher rates of mental health problems, substance use, risky sexual behavior, and HIV reported by sexual minority adults.


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and there's also the study about the ratio of homosexual pedophiles to heterosexual pedophiles is which is 11:1. Which means gays are 5 times more likely to molest children assuming gays comprise about 2% of the population.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

 

You literally asked me what my experience about it is.

 

And in reply, you posted a report that conclusively states nothing.

 

I'll also addd that it is irrelevant to the topic being discussed

 

It's perfectly natural and normal to masturbate. I discovered at 13 it before i ever saw porn.

Neither of those 2 make it healthy though. Masturbation is an utter waste of energy.

 

I am honestly wondering what people like ultrafabber are doing on this site. Shouldn't this be the place where people support and help each other? If it is, that guy isn't really doing it.

It's ridiculous that you, ultrafabber, attack one whole community of people and treat most of them like pedophiles just because of one random study which shows data that is forty years old. Not to mention how rude it is and how useless your posts in this thread are. If you want to help OP, then do so and answer his questions. He didn't asked for your "enlightenment", neither did any gay guy here. People are born that way and there is nothing we can do about it. Except, maybe, accept them since it's 2019 and don't act like it's not normal since it is?
And, based on your other posts, how about you let people explore and decide what they are instead of trying to show how only heterosexuality is correct and represent it as

because, ironically, YOU аre the one who hides options from people here showing only one way.

 

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y

 

Dude, are we really in 2019?
Who cares about what makes you hetero or homosexual. If traumatic events made people prone have green eyes that wouldn't mean that having green eyes should be a problem, or that they should wear contact lenses or whatever. Being anything but heterosexual is only a problem when people are treating you as someone that needs repair. I've never been on a situation like that of OP. I would be very careful to talk about such a delicate topic.
This whole "rebooting will make you like vagina" thing is completely irrelevant. The topic itself is a bit bizarre, so I can get that it goes offtopic, but the heteronormative preaching is definitely unrequested by the OP.

 

Tbh i guess that's only gonna make quitting easier

 

At this point I'm going to have to ask you and others that keep quoting me to stop it and start respecting this guy's topic. If you have something you want to talk to ask me or say to me, do it in PM, don't derail his thread.

That makes 0 sense, i'm hiding him options by giving him other options? Everybody except Roady and myself is telling him that gay is just who he is, so he already has plenty of options should he want to go that way. Yet you tell me to shut up and not present the other options. You're the majority trying to silence the minority yet you still preach about your neutrality?

Very little or any evidence at all about that actually, if anything. Science is pretty much stuck on that one.

It's sad to see that truth/science is "irrelevant". The thing is HOCD is a disturbingly common thing and people doing nofap already reported their sexual orientation changing after they started using porn and then reversed once they rebooted. Two out of the first five topics on Porn Addiction sections are about HOCD at the time of writing this reply.

Again, i'm just repeating my initial paragraph, but please stop the offtopic and respect this guy's thread. Ask me or tell me whatever you want in pm or open another thread about it.