Why do most men like MGTOW but hate feminism. Let me explain.

MGTOW is more "grassroots" in that it is funded by the participants, really. But it's still funded, and there are still beacon leaders of the movement. There's money being made, no doubt, by some of these men in leadership. Once you start seeing coffee mugs with your "brand" on 'em, you know there's money being made.

 

It's catharses for men on a massive and anonymous level. I don't believe that most will speak about or live their catharses in waking life. Men are NOW more than EVER made to be stoic and not talk about their vulnerabilities, and I'll speak for myself, when I feel like I hold something in, it comes out with a sense of urgency/exaggeration. Men look at one another in adversarial ways still, the way we did when we were homo erectus. Instead of being leery of another man from a passing tribe, we compare the appearance of health/affluence to size one another up. We don't share the unity/empathy that women seem to share when it's needed most, and that's because there isn't a popular narrative that awashes down to every level fostering said unity. We see it. And we resent it, because it's born of what was once necessity during the first wave. But now it's a facade of PR, which brings power and money.

There are countless women support groups online and brick-and-mortar, free of charge. Popular media makes us to look like thoughtless buffoons, both covertly and overtly. We're told we're privileged because we're men, so we get no empathy for our plights. Where do men go? Their local church? Many don't want the proselytizing that comes with it. So they formed their own group to address a very specific set of grievances in response to the societal assault that is 3rd/4th wave feminism. I'm happy to see the response, as caustic as it may be from some men. I equate those that are unhelpful/overly-angry to man-size temper tantruming online, really. To not yet realizing facts and assessing them calmly. They rather remain ignorant and merely intuit the wrongs, like children. A louder voice of hate speaking over a louder voice of hate, ad nauseum. The important thing is, that more men become aware of their own role in all of this, and realize the "THIS" in the first place. And learn of the disparities/false narratives that affect them each day. As a previous poster has stated, there are many faces/voices you don't see/hear who are far more rational within each movement, who do want equality, I think.

 

Christina Hoff Sommers and Helen Smith, FTW!

 

I think that some men are doing this in error, on their own part. This won't get them the same kind of exposure that the long-established feminists have gotten from such extreme tactics. The fems are seen as the ones who need to "come out on top" in this "fight." Men need brotherhood/community now, more than ever. I believe that there should be a more positive invitation toward men via social media platforms to join/create local groups/communities for discussion, face to face. From there, these groups can gather to confer throughout the country and be part of/form something bigger. Who knows, maybe one day there will be a place for men that is not demonized in "gender studies." I'm not a historian, but I'd wager this is how feminism began in the first place.

We're shouting up at a giant when we really need to be coming together to form our own organized community of brotherhood and strength, to form something bigger, more educated, more unified. I don't say "we're" as a MGTOW, but as a man who would be part of the movement if it were as it should be. I had contemplated trying to start my own local men's group, but I didn't know what I wanted the focus to be/what would draw us together/how to lead and where to go. I'm sure many men "in the middle" who have had this desire, have had this same issue. Thoughts?

 

No, I think we can acknowledge the wrongs done to us by 3rd/4th wave feminism. I mean that men themselves need to come together to give brotherhood/inspire/teach one another. We don't have to love those in the fringe who hate us, but we do need to be rational in our approach, BY the numbers, IN good numbers, and patient.

 

Going to make a thread about this after my workout. It'll be in the self-improvement section. Guys and gals, please feel free to give me ideas on how to go about forming a live group in my community. I have many means at my disposal, in social media platforms, local library meeting rooms, ideas for shared reading, etc. I just need a "brand" a sort of mission statement for advertising that will speak to other men's needs. I don't know how to convey what the group will be.

 

RKO, I appreciate this. I think I'll take the risk to do this. I have no idea how to go about creating a website, but udemy.com has some good free tutorials I've already downloaded. I don't know one iota about the marketing platform either, beyond creating a page and asking others to "share it" and spamming it in the comments of things. There must be better way than that and fliers around town, alone. We'll confer on this once the thread is made, I hope, and thank you again! I'll tag you!