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Vanilla (Potential Triggers)

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Deleted Account, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. My SO is doing PMfree and limited O. Since he is limiting O with a goal date we have been more active which is great. Problem is that I know he likes "certain things" and I tend to do them still bc I love the reaction it illicits from him but it is not quite "vanilla". My question is will adding any kink to the bedroom interfere with reboot? Should we be keeping it to just "vanilla"? By vanilla I mean just straight PIV, no hands, no mouth, no other "frills or kinks"?
     
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  2. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    If it's real intimacy, real connection with another person, I wouldn't see the things you described as affecting a reboot any more than having sex would. I'm not going to address frills because that could mean anything. With any kind of sex act, he's just got to look out for the chaser effect. However, if he's working his recovery, it should be okay.

    If his PM use affected your self esteem, and doing these things boosts it for you (being that he starts enjoying time with you and engaging in all that stuff), then that's probably worth a positive benefit too, reconnecting the mind to positive, real human experiences.
     
  3. Hopefulgirl

    Hopefulgirl Fapstronaut

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    Super helpful reply as I wondered the same thing! Wondering if sexy text photos are ok......
     
  4. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    I'd be more cautious with photos. They're still fake, and they still objectify the person photographed. Could also be triggering. That being said, if it's something you really want to do, because you feel it is empowering, sexy, or just puts you in the mood, then see if he's alright with it.
     
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  5. Hopefulgirl

    Hopefulgirl Fapstronaut

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    Thank you <3
     
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  6. No hands, no mouth? How is this supposed to work?
    Are you always dripping wet, spread your legs and he just goes right in?
    And what about kissing?
    Now I´m curious...
     
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  7. anewhope

    anewhope Fapstronaut

    I agree with others here. I don't think the distinction between "vanilla" and "other stuff" is a particularly helpful one. If he is totally focused on you while you are making love, and you are doing things that you both enjoy and are comfortable with, then that's great. Enjoy it - make the experience wonderful for both of you.

    The only exception I would make is if he had a major fetish/kink (say female domination (FEMDOM) for example) and nearly all of the P he watched was on that one topic. In that case, I would make sure that if it features in your love making at all, it is not a significant part of it. So if he were into FEMDOM, it would still be OK for you to take the lead some of the time, be on top, kiss him roughly etc. but tying him up and whipping him would be best avoided ;)

    So in summary, if his kink/fetish is strongly linked to his P addiction, then pander to it only in moderation and make it only a small part of what you do together.

    ANH
     
  8. samnf1990

    samnf1990 Fapstronaut

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    Try asking him if he thinks it would be a problem.
     
  9. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    Not really going into detail as it could be triggering, I assume she means no extensive foreplay beyond what is necessary to get the systems up and running.
     
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  10. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    @Broken3 With me and my SO, I don't use hj, BJ, BD , BDSM , Role plays, dress ups, excessive teasing, toys, use food, obviously he's not Ming,
    videos, pictures, we don't make videos for me even.. Or leave the bedroom (which I have a hard time with)
    ETC, or anything else.
    "Vanilla" during Reboot.
    Obviously, kissing and hands on body... Buuuuutttt you know... Nothing "extra"
     
  11. Haha no not like that. I meant no HJ or BJs for him so he gets sensitive to traditional PIV sex. There is still kissing and foreplay. I was wondering if other "kinky" stuff would be inhibit reboot or if it was okay bc it is w a real life partner. But as someone mentioned above regarding whether or not the "kink" was related to his P addiction I would have to say yes. Although def softer than what he was watching. I also don't want it to take "that" for him to have those intense reactions so that's why the questions.
     
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  12. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    We marked a day, halfway through the reboot to do BJ.
    And are waiting until the end of the year for my hands.
    He still says his hands will be a bad idea.
    Has said this since he started a year ago.
    Prerelapse.
    And reintroducing BJ, we know from last time, we will have to deal with the Chaser again.
    He said it's easier to break it up tho.
    Smaller bits.
    The Chaser does not last as long each time or is as strong.
     
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  13. I have but he likes it so why would he tell me NOT to do it?
     
  14. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    This is where Honesty comes into play.
    I can't use this A plug.
    Because he gets porn flashes.
    I like it, he likes it...feels good...
    It's still a Bad idea.
     
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  15. This is true. Honesty plays a huge part in what is triggering or not. And I guess it's really an individual thing since reboot is different for everyone.
     
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  16. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Yes.
    Just because it's "liked" by both parties... Doesn't mean it's a good idea either if it's slowing down the reboot or could cause flashes that could cause a relapse either. Even unintentionally.
    (hopefully I explained that ok)


    It's sad tho
     
  17. phuck-porn!

    phuck-porn! Fapstronaut

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    yikes - other than HJ and long ago BJ, there's not a single thing on this thread my wife would have even considered on her randiest day...
     
  18. samnf1990

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    If he is serious about his recovery. If he wants to quit P but still have an enjoyable sex life. He will not succeed in giving up PMO unless he is honest to himself.
     
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  19. I know. He says it doesn't trigger him and it doesn't take "that" to do it for him and that he just enjoys me. But for a SO we kind of naturally are going to second guess these kinds of things bc we have been lied to for so long. Sometimes i feel like he is being completely honest w me and other times I question if I'm just being naive. I often wonder if I am ever going to get over that second guessing in the back of my mind. It sucks!
     
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  20. Hopefulgirl

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    The second guessing is awful! I feel like I am on the emotional rollercoaster and I hate rollercoasters. Can't sleep. Can't eat. Cry all the time. Want sex all the time. It's nuts.
     
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