TEDx | Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation

You're trying to sympathize with people who sexualize children, you're an enabler. Don't try and sugar coat it... No matter what you say, these people are demented and demonic. I have zero empathy or compassion for someone who sexualizes children, I Don't care if they have done anything or not. They're looking at children sexually, probably looking at child pornography, etc. You're a sick person if you show sympathy for these satanic "people". "Muh tolerance" goes out the window when you start sexualizing children. To think that someone would even be thinking about someone's children in a sexual manner makes me want to puke. Disgusting wretched people... People I love have been sexually molested as children by these filthy scum. These devils will burn in hell, that's for sure.

 

didn't even watch the video lol AND I NEVER WILL

 

Guys here is the thing, if you *think* something wicked, and you think about this a lot, you revel in it, you feed the monster. . . It becomes natural, almost nonchalantly normal what do you think will EVENTUALLY happen???

No . . . I'm not going to grant these 'virtuous paedos' compassion. Like this guy.


What I will grant them is an electronic tag for life, inform the CIA, to ensure all internet activities are monitored and they NEVER are allowed with children 1-1. I will also shut down any 'virtuous paedo forums' they use to hang out and discuss whatever sick past-times virtuous paedos discuss???

 

Amen

 

Bloody hell! You can't tell who a person is by their voice! I knew someone in college who was bullied because he 'sounded gay' but he definitely wasn't gay!

 

I don't think that's anything to be amening. Close-mindedness shouldn't be applauded.

 

To me, the whole topic is vulgar (which means i probably should have just stayed away, but im human lol) the thought of pedophilia just makes me sick, especially if its acted upon. Im not judging one way or the other, because it may well be a mental condition that needs sympathy, i just dont want to think about it and thats why i have no desire to watch the video. Also, i think close mindedness is underrated. Everyone has to be open minded or else. If you know your own mind you dont have to try to convince yourself otberwise. Wouldnt it have been better if we were close minded about porn and never gave it a try?...Im sorry if this comes off harsh, i didnt mean it that way im just stating my opinion.

 

Guys this is NOT a topic where you can afford to be naive. If for one second you are granting these people 'compassion' something is wrong . . . children are in danger.

Tell me, how exactly do you help someone who is naturally attracted to children, how do you curb their sexual desires if that is ONLY what they are attracted to? Do you give them virtual kiddie porn, do you manufacture kiddie dolls for them to practice safe sex?

Here's another thought experiment. So let's say 'Jonas' tells you he is a paedo and he tells you he has fapped to your five year old niece / nephew but he will NEVER act on it. Are you gonna let 'Jonas' into the family home and offer him compassion? Are you gonna be surprised when your five years tells you through tears 'Jonas' tried to touch them?

^^Guys this is what happens when you are stupid and this is when children's lives are affected. We can NOT afford to be stupid! This is what happens . . .

 

Nothing to apologise about. I was probably a bit harsher. You can be closeminded about porn and still give it a try. Experiencing something a certain way doesn't mean you are openminded. A closeminded porn user is someone who just watches it but doesn't want to listen to former pornstar or even current pornstars share their story. I see a number of people who PMO but to them, a pornstar ceases to be a human being as soon as they become a pornstar and in my opinion that's close-mindedness. A closeminded person doesn't want to see things from a different perspective and it's not good because not everyone thinks like you. If you're an openminded person you're more likely to have more successful relationships because you don't expect your SO to think exactly like you. With the video, I don't agree with it but I think you should at least hear someone out who views the world differently to you. They might be wrong or you might be wrong.

 

@Wave Surfer would you offer 'Jonas' refuge in your family home with you 3-5 year old brothers and sisters, if he admits to being 'reformed?' - never acting out on his underage desires?

 

Everything you see in the big media, TV and so on is all material to brainwash people. I quit mass media and TV a long time ago and since I did I see things more clear and I use my mind to research and judge things rather than accepting blindly what the media says. ( media = brainwashing machine operated by the rich.) Nobody in this world should believe anything from the big media.

 

@Wave Surfer close-mindedness is GOOD: protect your mental from Trojan Horses such as 'pedophilia might be OK', red-light red-light WRONG !! It's a necessity to put BOUNDARIES that filter the sneaky learned helplessness of the wicked world, neutralizing it automatically. Otherwise with your 'mind open' you're the bin of every incorrect immoral perspective in disguised, an empty shell enslaved by deceitful illusions. Know what's true, moral, beneficial, holly, healthy, and stick to it !

 

I think everyone already understands that, but these people like fucking kids. It doesn't matter if they haven't done it. The fact is they want to, whether they have acted on it is irrelevant.They want to, so we have to be vigilant about that. Keep them at an arms's length. The fact that it is an uncontrollable impulse like our wanting to fuck women shouldn't make us lower our defenses, but increase them.

 

People need to understand that people at NAMBLA and other pedophilia groups have a different motive then you think they don’t want help they don't want to change their way of thinking they want the same acceptance we have towards gay people.

The people who want to get threated and helped aren’t part of pedophilia network and don't even associate with pedophilia they hate that word it makes them sick and want to get rid of those thoughts they don't even want the society to call them pedophilia because they hate it as much as we do. They want to be cured.

All those activist who say pedophilia is natural are people who don’t want to change.

 

You could say the same thing about church.



In fact, it could be said about working, studying, reading books, listening to music, going to YouTube, visiting this forum... Maybe we're all brainwashed by NoFap. In fact, anyone who thinks differently to you is brainwashing you! We! should all move to the desert and live in caves for the rest of our lives

 

I don't have 3-5-year-old brothers and sisters.

 

You are free to think and believe what you want. Keep watching them news! They bring a lot of usefulness into ones life.

 

I don't believe that sexual orientation is inborn. Legend "born this way" was used by gay activists for obtaining social acceptance, and their propaganda contaminate social science, changing views on paraphilias. It is not good, we need more good science, not a social justice propaganda, I am too tired from it. I was closed to change sex because I thought that I was born trans. It is clear that sexual development of child can be warped in many ways, we can read on this site a lot of stories of fethish formation from childhood, and these fetishes are completely manageable . Yes, it is hard to overcome something what was formed in chdildhood, but not impossible. I am overcoming my sissy fetish, crossdressing fetish, why should pedophile be different? I am russian, and now I understand russian conservatives who oppose LGBT rights, because they warn that after LGBT acceptance pedophiles, zoophiles will use the same narrative "born this way" in order to obtain civil rights. I think it is better to treat paraphilias as sexual addictions which should be managed. All addicts build their life and identity around their addiction. In my case I built my gender identity around my addiction to crossdressing and sissy porn, and pedophiles do the same. And some west social scientists justify this addiction, because they are "born this way". I have found in medical literature a lot of successful stories about overcoming pedophilia. Pedophiles have the same psychology as any fetihsits (self defeating, low self esteem, self-doubt in their masculinity) I can't make references to scientifc articles here, you can google article "Are pedophiles treatable? Evidence from North American studies"

 

Yes, children ARE in danger. Which is exactly WHY we need to afford pedophiles a slight bit more compassion, so they will get help instead of hiding for fear of being murdered.

It reminds me of the whole issue of self harm in therapy. People who are dealing with self harm need help, but they are often afraid to tell their therapist that they're dealing with that, because they might report it and get them locked up. But that doesnt help people not harm themselves anymore. All it does is encourage them to not seek help.

Absolutely not. That does nothing to discourage the behavior and only enables it and makes it feel more normal. Come on, dude, that's honestly the only option you can think of? I dont believe that. I think you came up with the most ridiculous option, to make the argument for rehabilitation sound more ridiculous than it is.

Of course not. Again, this is an extreme and idiotic example and not at all what people like me are advising. In your example, you have a man who HAS acted on his feelings already, first of all (masturbation is an action, no?). And also, you have someone who has made absolutely no attempt to get help and is simply relying on his own willpower. That is, indeed, stupid. Obviously you shouldnt allow your kid around somebody like that.

Why dont we change the narrative to something a little less absurd. What if there is a man who has never acted on his feelings (i.e. no masturbation) and every time those feelings come up, it disgusts him and he actively shuts down those thoughts (i.e. he isn't sitting around fantasizing about children while masturbating, like in your example). And then let's say that because he knows that society is aware of this problem and he is confident he wont be turned away in disgust, he seeks help from a therapist. What would that help look like? I have no idea, which is why he wouldn't be seeking help from me. He would be seeking help from people who have degrees in psychology and have studied the brains of pedophiles and actually know what the heck they're doing.

Now, what if that man, having never fantasized about a child or masturbated to thoughts of a child, who has been in therapy for his problem for years and continues to go to therapy, came to your home for dinner? Would you let him be alone with your kids? Certainly not, because theres no reason for that. But would you allow him into your home for a meal, if you were friends? I would hope so. He hasn't done anything wrong. And yes, it's still good to continue to be cautious, and that's why we have certain laws about sex offenders not being able to live near schools (in this case he isn't a sex offender, but that law should probably extend to self-proclaimed pedophiles, regardless of their actions, because we would rather be safe than sorry).

I just honestly dont understand how any human being with a heart could not feel some form of compassion for pedophiles who haven't acted on their urges and are disgusted by them. It's not like they asked for this. Whether its biological or it's a result of their childhood upbringing or trauma in their childhood, they are victims of a horrible disorder. I dont believe there is a single pedophile on this earth who actively chose to be attracted to kids. Nobody asked for this, and I wish people would stop treating them as if they have a choice and can just turn off those feelings. They can get help and therapy, yes, and they can choose not to act on them, but admitting to someone "hey, I keep having these persistent thoughts and they disgust me but I can't get them to go away" should NOT be treated the same as someone choosing to molest a child.

 

That's some early morning toasty sarcasm!