You basically fap for 1 hour, and while you do that, you speak out loud your sexual fantasies, desires, fetishes in precise detail. This apparently should help erase your fetishes. Anyone heard about that?
I have not and it sounds utterly absurd to me. I never tried speaking them out while fapping, but I certainly had session where I endulged knee-deep in them. That did not work at all, so I don't see how speaking about it while fapping could help. Like how? What is supposed to happen? It just doesn't make sense to me. Thus, I wouldn't recommend it.
I think the idea is that once you speak it out loudly, you become self conscious about how absurd and silly your fetish fantasies sound. Combined that with fapping, you kind of create a cognitive dissonance, like you're fapping right now but also simultaneously realize how silly your fetishes and fantasies are
Well, I don't know. To me that doesn't sound like it would work. Oftentimes we know exactly how absurd something we do or feel is and still can't do anything about it, so I don't see how it's gonna be any different with fetishes.
I mean, I kind of don't realize how absurd it is, but I'm one of those people who "live inside their head".
Hey man, I'm not trying to stop you from trying it out. If it works for you, then more power to you. I am just saying I don't see how something like this would even work in the first place.
Agreed, this sounds absurd. Realize it's not the fetish you're addicted to, it's the chemical bump your brain gives you while engaging in that fetish. Fapping for an hour while repeating your fetish isn't therapy, it's just edging. Think this through, be wary.
It just reinforces the very fetishes all the more for when you need your next fix. It's a reckless idea. .
Why not talk out loud about your fantasies and not masturbating? That way you can hear how stupid it sounds while not reinforcing it with sexual pleasure.
Please bear with me through this post. I've only started to make progress on this sort of thing myself. But, I think if the technique you mention does work, it works because you are forced to bring into awareness the identity you are possibly suppressing. Awareness is a tricky thing. It is in a spectrum more than either/or. One is only aware to a degree, and just a little more awareness can cause a huge difference. When you bring the identity into awareness (you are not really all that aware while masturbating, which is why you "wake up" afterwards and push the M'ing identity out of your mind), you can become friendly with the identity instead of ashamed, and grow it, instead of hiding it and letting it be further perverted and developed by P and M. My own struggles have revealed to me that that identity is a part of you that is rejected by the ego. So then it becomes perverted, and expresses itself through your sexual psyche. Lust is one of the only force strong enough to get around your ego. Your ego says to that identity "don't come up", because it's ashamed of it. The only way it can express itself is to overcome the ego. Lust is one of the few things stronger than the ego. So it comes out there. As long as you push it away, it will continue to be fed by P and M and come out through them. If you split off your submissiveness, it will come out in sexual fantasy. If you repress your dominance, it will come out in sexual fantasy. Same with anger and other things. So what identity do you have or identify with while PMO'ing? In my case, it was precisely the elements of myself I was repressing: my dominance and submissiveness. Thus I developed sadism and masochism. But they became extreme, perverted and hard to look at, twisted by a lack of guidance and extreme pornography. However, they are really just natural parts of the personality. It's ok to be dominant and submissive at different times. When repressed they get fucked up and expresses through lust, twisted by P. The ego has to adjust to the new reality, that it is not who it thinks it is, as it accepts these identities consciously. The progress you make on this adjustment is determined by your awareness, and I think saying your fetishes out loud is one way to get there. But a more reliable route may be mindfulness meditation. Keep in mind I'm still discovering and working through this stuff myself. But I think I'm on the right track and have started to heal. Best of luck on your journey
You would probably be better off putting that energy towards going to the gym, and eating healthy. Why would you waste one hour of your life with your dick in hand talking about your fetishes? Guaranteed you will not have the presence of mind to keep yourself from just relapsing. Just try to stop masturbating man. Simple.
This is a pretty terrible idea, at least the way you are describing it. It most likely would have the opposite effect. What you describe is similar to neuro-linguistic programming(NLP), which is likely to reinforce your fetish. Neuro-linguistic programming, btw, can be a very powerful tool to overcome addictions or change behaviors. I have books on NLP, but for example, the next time your notice a desire to engage in your fetish, say to yourself, 'I am not the kind of person who does ______'. You will be surprised that you can change your thought patterns quite quickly this way.
Can't see how it would work. I know that a 19 yr old dude from my college fucked my mom and speaking out loud about it doesn't stop the turn on for me.
