My friend relapsed - I did not go easy on him

Deleted because of irrelevancy.

 

It doesn't entertain me anymore to continue this debate which is going right through the wall. I know that absolutely anything I will say will be examined and it tires me to even think about it.

Keep becoming your best version. If one day you run to be the president of your country, whatever it is, be assured that I will not vote for you, and a lot of women won't either. I wouldn't want my daughter either to be around you. Your views aren't necessary wrong nor false - they are dangerous. The first topic was about you being hard with your friend. It has been cleared. End of the story.

 

I read but refuse to reply. I'm right. You're right. Everybody's right. Au plaisir.

 

"Chauvinism is about telling women what they can't do"

What's your opinion on prostitution? Do you think it should be legal in the west?

 

Clumsy, you have been well intentioned but your approach was quite unloving and self-centred. By being judgmental, impatient and harsh you have shown that you do not really care about the person but rather for your opinions and advice to be followed and for "the taxes your mother pays". I don't know how old you are and how much life experience you have but you seem quite quite young and there is still much to learn and I trust that you will learn in due course.

You need to realise that addiction is an illness that cannot just be stopped at will. If it was that easy to stop addiction, none of us would be here and everyone would just stop destructive compulsive behaviours at will. The truth, however is that addiction is how some people (including all of us here)have learned to cope with trauma, bad experiences and negative emotions and feelings. Levels of addiction also differ from person to person. On a scale from 1 to 100 maybe your addiction scores 55, but your friend's may score 90. So, it may be easier for you to stop some behaviours quicker than your friend. That has nothing to do with you being strong or more committed. It has everything to do with personalities, temperaments, support structure, life experiences, pains, trauma, etc...You need to go to your friend, apologise to him and learn to accept him unconditionally. Be a friend, just listen and accept him whether he is staying strong or relapsing. Don't play God (which you have been doing).

One of the main problems I think you may have is that, like all addicts (including me) you are very controlling and you want everything to go your way. When things don't go your way you panic and try to regain control or act out with porn or other forms of addiction. You are also very angry with yourself and there is a lot of self-loathing due to the shame of porn addiction. That is typical of most addicts. So, lashing out at your friend was because he acted in a way that was outside your control and against your advice. In other words you could not control him. Your anger towards him is simply an expression of your own self-loathing.

I am just discovering these things about myself and what I have said of you is more true of me. But I am learning to acknowledge this and learning to accept that I cannot control things and that I need to learn to forgive myself and heal. I wish you all the best...

Your views on women...well...you need to go and in live in Afghanistan

 

I peek back in every so often. It's fun to watch Clumsy implode, then explode. Well, funny, and kind of sad. It's not worth my time to argue as with a brick wall, tho. Suffice to say that I've read everything he's had to say, and moreover, I've picked up on the spirit behind it. And, sure enough, I'm very sure that you, my dear Clumsy, are not right. I don't know if you realize this, but your statements are seething with molten arrogance, and that's what set me off about you in the first place.

But, c'est la vie. That's life.

I don't horribly see how your excerpt of my essay and your question applies to my general overarching point - I'm CERTAIN you're not at all implying that I ever implied such a thing as legalized prostitution - but I'll bite.

Prostitution is very little about the choice of a woman as much as it is the forced marketing and enslavement of women; even if a woman chooses to enter into prostitution for whatever reason, she has little choice about the matter soon afterwards. A significant chunk of prostitutes - yes, even in the West - are sex slaves from both home and abroad.

So, no, I do not think prostitution should be legal period. It's exploitation. Moreover, if you were insinuating that this has anything to do with limiting women, then you've severely missed the point. That would be like saying that in a truly free society, murder and theft would be legalized. And I know that's not what you're getting at. Don't start trouble.

You did bring up an interesting topic regarding pornography and its tie-in with sex slavery, but I'll write up a little article and put it in a new thread - it'd get lost in the mess, what with Clumsy's, well, clumsy diatribe.

 

Y'know, not 48 hours ago, you decided to insult me in much the same way. How does it feel, little man? Can't swallow your own medicine? I didn't mention that I have personal experience fighting ISIS, so your arrogance and ignorance are brutally apparent to me.

He dares say it to you because internet, buddy-boy. Deal with it. It was a slightly off-color statement, but your approach has been pretty condescending towards women, so I can see where he's coming from. Try not to get too butt-hurt, eh?

 

Unlike me? Now, see, you keep making general assumptions like that, and I keep finding reason to reinforce my perspective about you. I most certainly stand for and advocate women, both in real life and otherwise. You don't even know, brah, so quit pretending like you do.

But I accept your half-hearted apology.

 

Well I'm all for legalisation of prositution!

Besides whether you are like it or not...you are still paying for it one way or another.

Anyway i ask you that question because I wanted to expose the HYPOCRTICAL view of you so called SIMP and modern day feminists!

"Chauvinism is about telling women what they can't do"

I irony lol pot calling the kettle black lol

If a woman wants to go into prositution...why are the
Iikes of you and feminists against her choice?

Her body, her choice, right? Like feminists like I say.

 

"Prostitution is very little about the choice of a woman as much as it is the forced marketing and enslavement of women"

Ha typical feminists/SIMP response on prositution.

Anything that feminists don't like is automatically labeled as forced/enslavement of women.

 

Blame the leakage of estrogen in tap water....and sadly most western men have been emasculated by their nagging feminists wife's/girlfriends.

And that is why I want nothing to do western women. I always avoid them like the plague lol