Just Told My Mom…

If I had real intimacy back in my teens, I would never become addictive to PMO.

To what you never had?

Spoiler

and will never do

 

Talking about Japan knowing that the birthrate there has been declining for the last 20 years? Knowing that people there are more shy per capita than any where in the world? You clearly wrote the problem, women being educated, being able to provide for themselves, makes them believe they are the prize.

I am a traditional man, i believe that everybody should have kids to keep their heritage, and bloodline going. The reason cheating is high in western countries is because they get satisfied with their hands, their wives dont fulfills their sexual needs so they seek out more women, because men like things/woman they see. Thats the problem being in the open world, like USA. Nobody believes in marriage over there.

 

where do you get that Japanese are shy?(and where did you get that stat?) They are just polite and reserved, only by western standards can you say that as a whole they tend to be shy; There are many strange practices in the west such as being so direct, maintaining eye contact when talking(especially when the other is older) or being outspoken/standing out in general, those are considered good qualities in the west but in most others places they are seen as being rude or impolite, Japaneses might be more extreme than other non-westerners on these but they predate the current situation in Japan by a long time, it is just a cultural thing.

Japan birth rate also has been declining for way more than just 20 years, it closely mirror the time since their economy started to pick off, today only low-income nations still have a high birth rate and even in high-incomes nations it is mostly the least educated and lowest earners who contribute most to the growth rate excluding immigration.

I don’t personally think it would be a good thing to have 1/2 the population being discriminated against, prevented from education and thus self-sufficiency, if I have a daughter I of course would want her to understand that she is a prize and should not just be dependent on someone else. There are probably better ways to do it.

My man cheating is not only high in the west, men have always cheated even today in non-western countries they still cheat a lot the difference is that in developed nations women no longer just put up with it but instead also cheat since they have more rights and are protected from their husband’s retribution unlike in most developing nations, they also have an easier time getting out of a difficult/unhappy marriage. In the past adultery was a punishable crime but only for women, it definitely should be criminalized for both sexes or at the very count during divorce process.

 

Fresh & Fit warns men against women like you with the «alpha woman» mentality. Truth is that men has ruled the world for thousands of years.

You talk about low income countries has the highest birthrate, and that it is a problem. It is, i never said anything about that. I simply said that i believe men and woman should produce kids and not have regular sex for fun to a degree.

You also talk about that men cheats in many non-western countries and yes it happens but you cant compare it to western societies. What you have done is that you have taken a small portion of hyper successful countries and compared it to some of the brokest nations in the world.

The worst thing is that you try to normalize being cheated back on. If i am a rich guy, with multiple cars, and multiple houses. Ofcourse i would cheat, because i am the prize. There are not alot of people in the world like me, and throughout history. Every man of a high caliber either cheated, or had multiple wives.

most of what you wrote are out of your feminist feelings. You will never become happy because that alpha woman mindset of yours, nobody likes it. If a successful man comes home, he dont want a woman at the same level as him. He want a woman on a lower level with less money, with feminine traits. Not a woman like you who argues like a man, talking about birth rate is highest in undeveloped countries. When i never said anything about that.
But it doesnt shock me, you live in the western world. A place you dont even know which gender you are, a place which has normalized intercourse with everything that has a hole.

I dont want to argue with you because i know what type of woman you are. Fresh & Fit invites women like you to their show to only teach them that their «feminist beliefs» are wrong. I reccomend tou watching a episode, maybe you learn something.

 

And what's the problem with that?

I do not remember, but for a time it felt like if I did not have success in anything. Having too many rejections might be harmfull.

 

So ever since the industrial revolution one can say that the west has ruled the world and even today though it is to a much lower degree it's still true, but what of it? Patriarchy as we know it among humans can be traced back since 10k years ago or so yet modern humans have existed for over 10x that long, you should look up hunter gatherers they were much more egalitarians than us and the whole alpha-beta mentality also likely originate from the adoption of sedentary lifestyle.

For animals like humans who have evolved to take on preys much bigger than them it is not normal to be so stratified at least among males since there is no real consensus if females were like males hunter-gatherers or exclusively gatherers as we have found remains of females huntress and among the aka today they also hunt, but if the latter is true(exclusively gatherers) then they were the main generator of wealth in the family.

Even chimps who humans typically describe as hyper aggressive primates(to feel good about themselves) are more reliant on diplomacy than force to be leaders and bonobos our closest cousins are more matriarchal than anything else but still very egalitarians.

Now i never said that high birth rate is a problem, when i say that it is highest among lowest income nations it is simply a fact; furthermore high birth rate is almost necessary for these nations to become developed, the pattern is that poor nations with a big, young and cheap labor force attract foreign companies who invest and contribute to the industrialization of said nation. The main reason birth rate is high there in the first place is that in a non-industrialized nation having lots of kids is the best investment you can make, you only have to take care of them relatively cheaply for a decade and 1/2 or so then you basically double your income. In industrialized nations jobs have higher requirements, you got to take them to high school and frequently college too, both can be pretty expensive.

There is nothing really wrong with people having sex for fun as it is a useful bonding tool between couple and they do it anyways even when there is no chance that the woman will get pregnant such as when she is already pregnant, when she is lactating or even post-menopause. This is not a behavior unique to humans.

So you talk about the worst thing being normalizing cheating back yet for you it is normal for a man of higher caliber to cheat? Did you miss that part when i said cheating should be criminalized? For me anything that discourage cheating is a good thing, i don't see why one gender should get a free pass.

 

Mine is that I can’t even achieve these.

For a time… What about all the time, huh?

Oh, you bet… And having only them.

 

Hey. I read your post and as i was writing a reply, i remembered a saying -
“Argue with a smart person, and you might win. Argue with a dumb person and you will never win.”
I dont have energy to argue with you because i wont come a way. I could choose to argue, but there is a reason a single debate Fresh & Fit has with a woman on the podcast can last upto 40 minutes. It’s basically because they have too much pride to lose. This applies to you as well.
Robert Kiyosaki said
“The problem with adults today isn’t that they don’t learn, but rather that they never learn to unlearn what they have learned.”

 

Those are my advices, if you want, take them. I'll leave this conversation with 2 phrases:
"Nothing is forever" (even if you don't see the light through your way, soon, that path will finish).
"You become in what you think of yourself".

 

@somuchforsubtlety , don't engage with Alcatel...his head is so far up his ass that it cannot come out, and he has to feed on his brain.

 

You are just mad because there will be more muslims than christians by 2070.

 

They are not applicable to me. Also, I didn’t ask for any advice, from you too.
Thanks.

 

Is sex the only thing that makes us human and the only thing worth living for?

 

So, you idolise a feminine ideal but have contempt for actual human women, who are just as flawed as men (but are doing their best, just like we are)? You don't want a woman who isn't a virgin, she doesn't want a guy who is addicted to porn. I'd prefer a woman with a couple of ex boyfriends than one who was frigging herself to porn every night (and all day too), given the choice. But we all have our cross to bear.

How many proudly virginal males on here would still be a virgin if they had as much attention and opportunity as an attractive woman gets? Why do you think you are addicted to porn??

 

So basically you want a cum dumpster? A woman who has had plenty of sex to the point where it isnt pleasurable to her. Just a habit. Listen guys are different and i would rather have a virgin than a non virgin because if she has 10 bodies, and 6 ex’s. That basically means that when you two get together, she will bring all her trauma, and how these relationships affected her psyche to your relationship.

there is a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women in America. Women believe that they are supposed to live their best life. But if you are a fully smart man, you dont desire much.

lust is an never ending trap. You can buy a house, but then you would want a bigger house. You can buy a car, but then you would want another car. You can fuck one girl, but then you would want to taste the whole rainbow.

sex is addicting, and i would rather want someone addicted to porn, than sex.

i am just saying that life is boring. Life cant be fun all the time. You get a job, a house, a car, a wife, and kids and most of your life is done.

i actually met a woman holding a speech at my community service. She was married at 20, 2 kids, and she divorced at 43 or something because she was too young when she got married. Well she was a victim to the modern trap, and im pretty sure alot of men would want to bang her, wife her, but they would never be a man of a higher caliber than her. 3 beautiful relationships straight in the trash.

i believe that western/modern woman have been brainwashed. Easy to trick. Tricked to believe all this live your best life bullshit. Live a beautiful life with one person, make deep emotional and spiritual connections.

 

Is this directed at me? No idea what made you think that. I'm questioning the logic of men who are self-diagnosed porn addicts making demands of their imaginary girlfriends and becoming all bitter because nobody wants to go out with them (let alone marry them). That ask why women think that only the top 5% of guys are worthy of them, when they are merely average, and yet they are a bitter negative porn addict railing against modern society (clue: not what most women are looking for).

I've met women who are bitter about modern society too, that guys just want to bang and only ugly guys want to commit. Not to mention porn and the unrealistic and ridiculous ideas that these guys are bringing too the bedroom. And it's just as unattractive in women as it is in men!

 

Dude why do you even use terms like "cum dumpster." It shows how desperately attached you are to the whe red pill philosophy. Like it's your whole personality. Is there no middle ground between a virgin and a sex addict? Judging by your posts a woman is either "opened up" or she's never had sex ever. It's ridiculous. If you want a virgin so Allah can pat you on the head when you die, all power to you. But bitching about "muh feminism" is just embarrassing.

Have you ever been with an actual female sex addict? I have. They are fucking creepy. They act just like us. And far be it from them running away to fuck another guy, in my experience they just cling tight and talk about sex ALL THE TIME. As in literally all the time. It's insane. And you can't have a relationship with them because their brains don't work properly. It's like being with a child. So I have no idea where you get this idea that women can have sex so much that they get desensitized to it.

I live in the west and there are plenty of women who have silly standards or who don't want to put in any effort in dating except to be "the prize." Absolutely. But women initiate divorce most often because men get complacent in relationships. They start taking it for granted and they ignore the signs that their partner isn't happy - even when they are told that to their face. I've seen it happen so many times to my friends. It happened to my own father. And what did he do after? Blamed the woman. Very similar to some of the stuff in this thread.

 

Hello bro. I am a self diagnosed porn addict so i can speak from my viewpoint. I believe that the men that suffers from these issues arent bitter, but they feel like they deserved better. But to deserve better, you have to want the best for you. And the best thing for a man is to take care of himself, get their money up, style up, become a man of value and then they can demand what type of women they want. Life is harsh for virgins and non virgins, but this war isnt between virgins and non virgins and what they demand. This is a war between the weak minded, and strong minded. My message isnt ‘‘Virgins deserves a virgin who looks like Marilyn Monroe’’. My message is clearly that men should work on themselves to the extent where they can pick and choose what type of women they want. A man needs to create value, a woman is born with value. I dont bash you bro, i support you to strive for the better.

 

Hey. I love all my women, i believe that women are the most precious things created and should be protected at every cost no matter who they are. I never meant to bash a woman when i wrote ‘‘cum dumpster’’. We are human and we shouldnt bash each other off our wrongdoings. Me personally believe that you can demand from others, what you can demand for yourself. Lets say you are a virgin, then of course you can demand a virgin but you dont have to. It is up to every individual person. I am a strong believer in marriage and i do believe that everybody should wait until marriage. Sex is addicting, and i believe in building special emotional bonds, and everlasting love with your wife/husband.

Hello, i agree with what you are saying. A femalensex addict is more likely to cheat on you than a virgin. That is why i believe in marriage before intercourse. A woman who has had a lot of sex will not find it pleasurable when she has intercourse with her husband, this will directly lead to her sleeping with other guys behind his back.

Western woman do have a wicked mindset believing that they are the prize. I understand what you are saying. I do believe that a relationship between a man and woman is meant to be explored, you will never ever truly know a person fully in and out. That is why i believe in investing time with eachother. Make eachother happy, communicate, explore and nurture. I cant go inside personal cases, so i cant say much about your father. Sometimes we just need to put down our arrogance, and take responsibility.

 

based on how angry you are in your posts about women, this sounds like cope lol