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Just a theory

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Drew140, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    One of things I've noticed among couples with PM issues is many of them were married very young. In many cases the men were virgins. For the record I am not married.

    My first date was 16. I am now 40. I lost my virginity in college. When you are on the dating scene for that many years you experience the highs and lows of relationships and are exposed to number of experiences. Do I feel I have a more mature view of sexuality than someone who is 18? Yes.

    It is my theory that when people marry very young and in which many are virgins (some may have never seen a girl naked before their wedding night) the sacrifice a lot of the experiences common to the dating world. It is their curiosity of these experiences that leads them to view porn. They are living vicariously through the porn. Their sexually conservative nature discourages them from asking their spouse to try new things for fear of rejection or contempt. I also believe some try to use porn as a textbook for sex. Like anything else being good at sex takes practice (fun practice) but if one is a virgin they may try to use porn to speed up the process. The problem they all fail to recognize is porn is fantasy not reality.
     
  2. TheProloguist

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    "They are living vicariously through the porn. Their sexually conservative nature discourages them from asking their spouse to try new things for fear of rejection or contempt."

    You live with a person by your side for decades and you're still affraid of being judged and rejected. This can have a myriad of psychosocial factors, one of them can be lack of previous experiences. But the main one it's being stuck in mundane predictable routine and expectable calendar. Unwillingness and unawareness to diversify any kind of experience / interaction regularly, which expands the confort zone inbetween the 2.
     
  3. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Oh I agree.
    Why would men who lose their virginity young or got out there need to use porn?
    The downside is we should ask on another thread
    When did you lose your virginity /when did you discover porn?
    If you want the best results.
    I think this plays the best factors.... Intertwine the three
     
  4. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    Almost neck and neck but I can take or leave porn.
     
  5. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    I'm doing a reboot because the little pills don't work. It's an experiment.
     
  6. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Right... Buuuuutttt at what age is like losing virginity... The discovery of porn.
    I bet it greatly influences relationships and how they interact with women and marriage and so for
     
  7. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    College freshman. I was 18
     
  8. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    Never a heavy porn consumer. I like real girls way better
     
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  9. Drew140

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    They smell better, feel better, much smoother touch, and warmer in bed.
     
  10. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    And if there was a thread, you could add it to your theory
     
  11. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    Pretty decent theory though right?
     
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  12. TheProloguist

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    It's a short resume, it has some dots connected. It makes sense all together.

    I'd rather call Porn a misrepresentation instead of "Fantasy"

    I prefer to replace the word "Sex" with "Physical Human Interaction", in which represents a whole more complete experience.

    We all have a fairly superficial misrepresentation of sex induced by porn.
    Porn does not represent the meaning of a sexual act and it's physical interaction in terms of meaningful sensorial act. Why?

    It is distorted because you removed the sensorial experience in the first place there by the visual representation has to be heightened and accelerated to the point it results in a deceptive misrepresentation formula. It has to progressively match within the levels of stimuli because of the lacking sensorial and emotional experience it provides to the user.

    We all should have more meaningful sex and less lone (porn absort) masturbation.
     
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  13. Kenzi

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    @Drew140
    Yes... You need more data tho, I feel like you wrote half the thesis.. No, 2/3.
    Yes, that.

    I do like it tho
     
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  14. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    The MO has been hard for me. 26 was first try. Back to 5 already with 1 day relapse. Kept my sex drive. Makes it tougher.
     
  15. Hopefulgirl

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    I think religious shame is a HUGE culprit- many men who lose their virginity late do so because of their religious upbringing and have spent years masturbating in shame. I am not at all against religion, but I am against religious fundamentalism and telling teenage boys they are going to hell because they touch their penis.
    *disclaimer* I know this isn't the case for all, but was for my partner.
    Also, my partner and I had a very fulfilling and experimental sex life and then his PA started.
     
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  16. True-Self

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    I'll add my data to the mix. I got married in my early 30's. I lost my virginity in my mid 20's to the same woman who I married. I have not had an issue asking my spouse to try new things. We had multiple discussions about sex prior to marriage.

    I have definitely lived vicariously through porn. I feel pretty much all heavy P users due this to some degree.
     
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  17. RocCity

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    Theory makes a lot of sense that age and experience are factors. For my part I found porn online at 14, but didn't watch regularly until my 20s. Lost my virginity at 19 and it was a one time thing. Shortly after that the second (and only other) girl I slept with ended up being my wife. We didn't talk that much about sexual preferences, never have. Once I got bored I got curious about what it would be like to be with someone else, and used porn as a substitute for that fantasy.
     
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  18. EyesWideOpen

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    Theory needs work. We were married young but have been married for over 2 decades now. He was not a virgin, I was. I am the much more adventurous one, always willing to try something new, and have a high libido.

    Side note: I had a dozen arrows through the heart during the PMO discovery phase when I realized every adventurous or exciting thing he ever asked me to do, things I had been doing for years that I thought were just between us, was a porn fantasy that he regularly sought out to look at or watch.

    The question of the day is...has his libido been lower because of PMO all these years (I suspect yes) or is it just naturally lower than mine.
     
  19. Hopefulgirl

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    @FedUpWifey I totally understand-my husband did the same thing. And as his PMO habit escalated, he shunned me and we had sex 2 times in 2 years! He blamed it on "low desire"- And it was, for me :( I even took him to the doc to get his hormone levels tested! Once he stopped PMO and we started having slow, female centered sex, his libido for me returned with a vengeance. Which makes me happy. But sad. Oh the rollercoaster :(
     
  20. Drew140

    Drew140 Guest

    Oh that deserves a prostate exam alone!
     

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