Does quitting porn make your P shorter?

Yes you're ruler is getting longer. Seriously kid there is nothing wrong. If you're in your 7th month without pmo that's a good thing. Keep up the good work.

 

Mine did get shorter. About half an inch shorter. But I think that’s an exception. Most guys here say they’ve stayed the same or grown.

Other than not being able to do certain positions, and falling out during PIV … having a short one isn’t so bad.

 

Two things.

1. Nope, not getting shorter. My wife is a pelvic floor specialist. She knows everything the current literature says about urination, defecation, and copulation, and every single part we use to do it. Despite what the Internet says, NOTHING grows your lil’ mister, and NOTHING shrinks him. I hate to contradict @+TenPercent ’s experience, but either his measuring technique changed or he’s an incredible exception. As for quality of boner, ask any lady on this forum. Most are in the relationship section. They prefer non-porn ones.

2. Size doesn’t ma- oh never mind, you don’t believe that because porn showed you how much size does matter. Guess what?

Porn lied.

I know! I’m surprised as you are! Who’d have thought porn, good ol’ reliable porn, would have betrayed us like that? But wait, what’s the proof?

First, nearly every lady on the planet says so. But if that isn’t good enough, science backs them up. Turns out the average human female’s pleasure centers are easily reachable by the average human male’s crotch sausage. And historically, large male appendages were never associated with masculinity. Homer didn’t dedicate a stanza of the Iliad to Achilles’ monstrous meat missile. There’s no speculation about how the Green Knight can comfortably sit his beautiful bay with his big brass balls. Mark Antony made a poem about his dick, never mentioned the size. And you can bet, if a thick, hefty schlong was thought to be any sign at all of masculinity, prowess, or amorous capability, despots like Genghis Kahn, Darius the Mede, and every piddling aristocrat & general from the Euphrates to the Danube would have built monuments to remind everyone just how big a man they really were. They didn’t. The few times a large one is mentioned at all is in context of mockery and disgust.
So when did that change?
Shortly after the invention of modern photography.

I rest my case.

 

As our counselor stated 100% of respondents said "Size doesn't matter". If we are the recipient of it then why won't you boys believe us? This preoccupation with size is purely a man thing. Or a compensation thing however you wish to look at it.

 

I’m not sure who you’re trying to help by insisting that size doesn’t matter at all, ever but from my vantage point it feels like adding insult to injury by suggesting it’s all in my head and I must not know how to use a ruler.

It’s like telling a really short guy that height doesn’t matter.

I have had condoms fall off. I have been asked to do positions where I can’t reach. I have been told by women that mine is too small. I have caught my college gf in bed with another man. I have been teased by other guys in the locker room. But you’re telling me it’s all in my head.

Yes, I agree with everyone on here that porn distorts our views about penis size. But surely that came from somewhere, yes? Otherwise we would have seen some 90’s VHS porn where women had sex with aliens (there was so much body paint / fantasy porn in the 90’s, especially in Penthouse magazine) and then we’d all be fixated on having a green penis.

There are notably small penises in Greek sculpture, but also notably large penises in artwork from the Incas to the Hindu. The world abounds with oversized phallic symbols and a large penis is often used as a depiction of fertility. Chaucer and Shakespeare made ribald jabs about men with small penises, well before porn and photography.

But don’t take my word for it, I’m just a scientist with a masters degree that doesn’t know how to use a ruler.

And, regardless of what any of us might think about penis size, humans have evolved with relatively large phalluses compared to all other primates. What is that other than sexual selection?? If size didn’t matter for successful reproduction, then we’d all have smaller dicks to reduce risk of injury and to facilitate ease of physical activity.

 

Yes quitting porn will initially decrease your size if you go into flatline because if you aren't getting erections from MW(morning wood) or NW(nocturnal wood) and you aren't getting erections through PMO, your penis isn't being expanded/stretched out which is what happens during an erection.

MW & NW, which is when the penis grows, stretches out, and maintains its size. It should happen several times each night. However there are additional factors as well such as T levels and overall fitness, both of which men should work on and maintain. The bottom line is that for men its best to make sure they are having regular MW & NW and to eliminate PMO from their lives. I would try to naturally increase T levels but you can get get a prescription as well, but once you down that road you're on it for life, which might be ok depending on your age. The reason that increasing your T levels help is that it contributes to more and stronger MW & NW.

Once you get out of flatline and start having regular MW & NW you should start to see the size return after a while, but its not going to happen overnight. It might take 3-6 months of regular, hopefully raging, MW & NW. Also, do not sleep on your stomach and wear very loose fitting garments to bed.

 

^^^^^ SMFH ^^^^^

 

So Much Fucking Horseshit?

 

Shaking My Fucking Head. But I like the way you think.

 

I agree with you here, and I thank you for pointing this out.

I would add that, in my opinion, what women do like is a man who is confident, equal fitness level to themselves, attractive in their opinion, can support themselves, good personality and a sense of humor helps. I'm sure there are other qualities as well. Quitting PMO will help improve in most of these areas.

 

I’m sorry @+TenPercent , I meant to respond before, then things got busy, then I had to find this thread again. I wanted to respond because I need to apologize. You’re absolutely correct. Size does matter. It didn’t matter so much before, but P is here, it’s saturated culture, and it matters now. My earlier comments are dismissive, insensitive, and unkind.

I’m not addressing these in order.

Teased by guys in the locker room, I suspect this is your first experience with this issue and the birth of your insecurity. I probably don’t have to tell you about how guys are, especially in a locker room. First, boys are competitive and insecure. They feel inadequate, they need to get the focus off themselves, so they point to something else and it doesn’t even have to be legitimate. They basically have to establish a hierarchy, even if it’s based on something arbitrary. They have to exclude someone so that inclusion means something. But where did they learn big=good? Culture told them. Who told culture? Was it women? Or P?
It really sucks that this experience used shame to so deeply ingrain this belief in your psyche, planting doubt and coloring every proceeding experience through this filter. I have some ideas about why this, and the other experiences you describe here, may not have meant what you thought they did.

Been told by women it’s too small. This is probably the toughest one. You have women like happenstance saying it doesn’t matter, but these women say it does. Someone either doesn’t know, or is lying.
In a lot of cases, women don’t know. You say you’re a scientist, so you can appreciate; a limited sample size invalidates the study’s results. Most women have not “been with” a lot of men, so they haven’t even experienced anything other than average. Of those that have, it’s possible their expectations colored their results. The only way for you to know is to go off personal experience and again, there’s personal factors affecting the data. Your insecurity is obvious. Were these women trying to hurt you?
The only data you can take seriously is from a source you trust, and in a position to know. That would be a steady girlfriend, not a hookup, one who doesn’t have an interest in dominating or demeaning you, and of course she’d have to have experienced an average size. All others are corrupted, as exemplified by the next one.

Caught my college gf in bed with another man.
That is horrible. The worst. She was in the wrong, I imagine she knew it, and she was looking for an excuse to shift blame. She knew about your insecurity, and used it against you to get herself off the hook.
Here’s the honest truth: “cheating” is always wrong and there is no excuse. If she was not feeling satisfied, she could have talked about it and given you a chance to work it out. Instead, she was impulsive and didn’t respect you at all. She was using you.
I know from another thread you were in a cuck situation. Same girl or not, she was using you. She did not love you. Couples who love each other but have complications with S find a way to make it work, without bringing other people into the bedroom. I could be wrong, but I’m convinced S is as much about pair bonding as it is reproduction, so any S outside that paired relationship is valuing the recreational aspect, or some other aspect, over that bonding priority and is harmful to that relationship. Other people, trained people, disagree and say loving couples find ways to make extra marital S work, but I respectfully believe it’s dysfunctional.

The last two are easy. Condoms fall off, and positions you can’t reach. Me too! And I’m average. Especially with PIED, sometimes the little guy gets too little and, more importantly, too flaccid. For reach, this is another place where P has influenced real life S way too much. P is 100% sensory, mostly visual, it has us convinced the pleasure is in the visible physicality of the act. In reality, the pleasure is in the combined stimulation of the nerve centers, and the intimacy and trust between the couple. There’s an extremely short list of positions that are good for stimulating those nerve centers. All the acrobatics, contortions, pretzel bending, athletic pounding, are actually worse for pleasure, not better. You’ll find yours and her favorite positions are some iteration of cowgirl (not reverse), doggy, but mostly missionary. Because that’s basically the way we’re designed to do it. Too small for the Devil’s Forklift, or whatever ostentatious maneuver you or she wanted to try because it looked really cool in P? Doesn’t mean you’re too small to give her O. You’re not missing out on anything.

 

I have been trying to naturally increase my T so I can grow more. How do I get MW and NW? Will diet help increase my T or do I need to work out?

 

So you can grow more what?

 

Well, you know what, and just grow more all over my body.

 

google how to naturally increase your T, but yes diet, exercise and suppliments. Also the big thing to get alot more MW is you need to stop PMO and MO, it will take about 60-90 days to get MW regularly. Good luck, you can do it!

 

Testosterone doesn't do that much for growth. Women aren't short because of their small amounts of testosterone, but rather because of their large amounts of estrogen. The only way to really impact your growth significantly is to be fat. Don't be fat. Fat produces estrogen, and estrogen stops growth.

 

That's really interesting Im not fat at all. And I exersice

 

probably nothing to worry about then

 

But I'm worried about my growth.

I guess it's just an insecurity then