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bull that i tell myself (**triggers)

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by jobbyj, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Although i hear you all having different views. different aspects make sense to me.

    Bottom line for me is to not hide behind this, be open more and honest.

    Fix the pmo shit, and then see where our sex life goes when i am not consumed ...

    Its the rational choice

    If she doesnt want to do things. Thats her choice. equally i may not want to do things - time will tell. I need to get to that place first before making assertions.

    My earlier statement comes from a fear place. i need to get past that. its too much an excuse.

    Thank you all !!
     
  2. phuck-porn!

    phuck-porn! Fapstronaut

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  3. in that light
    have given my k9 password to my wife. think that will make a big difference
    relapsed last night
     
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  4. EyesWideOpen

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    Sorry to hear. Pick yourself up and start over. Don't tear yourself down. How is she handling the relapse?

    Giving the password to her is a good thing. Let her change it so you can't unblock sites in a weak moment.

    Do you know what triggered you into relapse? Pinpointing those times can help you refocus and redirect yourself so you can avoid the high temptation times. Journaling is extremely helpful. Head over to the Reboot Logs to start yours. You'll get a lot of input and insight and help from everyone on your journey to being PM free (I assume you want the O since you are married :) ).
     
  5. It's all about finding what works for you, and sometimes that takes multiple tries and experimentation. You relapsed, so now you're trying giving your wife the password. If that doesn't work out, you'll try something else. You just have to keep on trucking until you find what works and sticks.
     
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  6. phuck-porn!

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    hi @jobbyj - sorry to hear, that sucks. you've gotten good advice about not staying in the fire swamp and beating yourself up.

    re: K9 and the like. tools like k9 and OpenDNS (another tool I highly recommend!) and super important - they are like locking your doors and boarding up windows if you know a murderer is going to attack your house. it is imperative to take all steps necessary to make it hard for the murderer to damage you when he arrives - otherwise you just die and no progress is made. I also highly recommend reading @Kenzi's thread on the Lists her husband uses.

    all that said, those tools only minimize the damage and provide you a safe space to begin the REAL WORK. the real work is figuring out why the murderer is hunting you at all. maybe you know that PMO is almost always a band aid to cover up something else. the something else is a hurt or pain or something that we just don't want to feel. and damnit, but pmo and dopamine work really well to put our brains in another place where we don't think or feel any of the stuff we'd rather not. except it has a really bad hangover - and we learn to hate ourselves for our lack of being worthy of respect and lack of self-control.

    so my friend - by all means secure you house. dig a moat, board up the windows. but then do not put off working on the real issue. it won't be fun. it causes triggers all by itself. but it is the only way. stand up and fight for your dignity and your wife and your future. you will never be sorry.

    peace, brother
     
  7. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    My advice... Have your wife set the password up and just not tell you.
    What is the point of you having the password anyway?
     
  8. appreciate the comments.
    on this, i think i need to loop her into my journey a bit more. i have been fighting this solo, i mean she knows i use but she doesnt know the full extent and i pretend i am trying to protect her by not being open, so this has taught me that

    as if she knew, she could have kicked me harder to rest....rather than let me give into myself

    thank you for the feedback

    how are you all doing ... how are your journeys?
     
  9. i dont have the password anymore, i kept it as a trialling of the tool but that was clearly me bullshitting myself

    i dont know the password, it is random, and its not in my sent items, or anywhere i could find it
     
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  10. i agree with you completely, but my journey has been a bit in reverse, as i have done a lot of therapy before due to lots of childhood issues and my dad was a porn distributor as a side business, so i understand the story and my triggers and emotional issues. as my therapist has put it, the last thing is just shaking this off (of course appreciating thats not so simple)....i have also read a number of books on addiction and implemted strategies to stop other addictive and negative behaviours, but this one has been the longest and most destrutice (i thought another was - it was my main focus before - and its dealt with now)

    sorry that may come across as arrogant, i just mean, that the emotional side i get, just the mechanics and behaviours are still just defaults i need to change but they are entrenched
     
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  11. phuck-porn!

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    not arrogant at all - I just didn't know
     
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  12. The Wrestler

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    First, props for calling yourself on your bull! You are very right, all your "will never" and "will not" are inaccurate statements. You cannot predict the next five minutes, let alone the realm of possibilities that could open for you in a month or year! Keep calling yourself on your bull.

    Be aware that blame is bull, too, because blaming puts all the responsibility on the other person and you take no accountability or responsibility for yourself. "...She is religious so we were not that active" is blaming. Where were you in this? What are you taking responsibility for in that? What other things are you blaming on other people or external factors? For what things can you claim responsibility, and therefore claim the ability to make things different?

    Second, why are you using porn? I mean it like this: porn is serving you some kind of function, it is filling some kind of need. What is that need? Before you say "need for sexual contact" be careful - sex is not a true need. No one has died from not having sex! So what is the purpose behind your porn use?

    What I have discovered in my...porn-free journey? I really need a better name for it. Anymeow, what I've discovered in my fapstronauting, is that porn is a symptom or a band-aid for something else that is going on, and taking the time to do a lot of introspection, personal development, and responsibility are what will get you through this to something happy. I have also found external help, like a counsellor, to be exceptionally useful in that regard. What would you think of sitting down with a counsellor on your own? With your wife?
     
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