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Boyfriend lied about going to an SAA meeting!

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by SaraCarter, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. SaraCarter

    SaraCarter New Fapstronaut

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    I'm so upset, I'll never be able to believe him about this in the future. We live in different cities. He told me that he went to a meeting this morning, and that his sister picked him up at after.

    But things didn't add up - 1. The meeting started at 8, he said he left his phone at home but I got a message from him at 8:30 this morning - he says he left the house at 7 though. He tried to pass that off as saying, oh, the weather's been bad, maybe it just had trouble sending.

    2. Then he said his sister picked him up at 9, dropped him off at home and then had to rush off to work, since she was supposed to be at work at 9. His sister hates giving him rides, and she would never be late for work just to pick him up, plus she avoids going downtown because she doesn't like driving in that area.

    3. He didn't even say anything about going to this meeting until we had an argument - he sent me a screenshot of something and in that screenshot I also saw the fact that he was chatting with someone on KIK and watching porn, too. KIK has always been as issue with us, so of course I was afraid that he was cheating, so I pointed out what I saw to him. He attacked me, accusing me of attacking him and of assuming the worst, he said that he wasn't doing anything wrong and that I'm an ungrateful b*tch since I should be happy he went to a meeting this morning - but the thing is, he never told me he went to a meeting until the fight. Normally he tells me when he's going to meetings and when he gets back, and we talk about it and celebrate it together...but today he said nothing, until the fight.

    So since these things sent off little warning bells, I texted his sister to ask if she picked him up downtown this morning...she said no. He lied. I'm so afraid that he's been lying most of this time about going to meetings, I'll never be able to trust his word again. I'm sorry, I just needed to vent. I'm so devastated and tired of being lied to.

    EDIT: Now he's saying that he lied about his sister giving him a ride, because he just wanted me to 'shut up' and that he used her bike this morning...but why would he lie about that, why not just tell me he was biking? I could have believed that, but it was harder for me to believe his sister picked him up. He's saying that I should show a little faith in him but I can't after all the times he's lied to me. I can't trust anything he says anymore. I always know when he's lying or when he's hiding something from me and he's refusing to be honest today.
     
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  2. Jennica

    Jennica Fapstronaut

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    I’m sorry you’re dealing with this.
    My honest concern would not just be lies but the way he is speaking to you (shut up & ungrateful b*tch) in his defensiveness of it, that is a form of abuse in my opinion and personal boundaries for you may have strong merit.
     
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  3. SaraCarter

    SaraCarter New Fapstronaut

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    I let him get away with that sort of thing because of the addiction, that's the only reason I allow him to talk to me like that - but he's never talked to me like that before today, I almost did break up with him. It was so shocking. I don't know how to set boundaries. He blames so much on the addiction and acts like I can't be angry at him for the things he does...
     
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  4. Jennica

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    @Kenzi, @AnonymousAnnaXOXO a few other’s are exceptionally good at this, incredibly better than I.
    I remember when my husband started to speak to me in those ways. I was stunned and dumbfounded. It worked in regards to shutting me down. It felt like it became the norm. For me it was hard to find the balance in not allowing him to continue and not become deep in my own defensiveness.
    I started reading on gaslighting, Betrayal and how to deal with narcissistic behaviors. My hubby isnt a true narcissist but the PA certainly brought out such behaviors towards me at times.
    I had to learn to set my personal boundaries, I will not stand to be disrespected in such ways, I made a promise to my self that I will walk away if needed either for a few minutes/hours or the relationship.
     
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  5. SaraCarter

    SaraCarter New Fapstronaut

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    Oh...my god...I think he is gaslighting me! I can't believe I never saw that! I can't believe I never realized it. He makes me feel like I'm too paranoid and that I should just trust him when he says he's done nothing wrong (but it always turns out he has) and he accuses me of digging for things to get him in trouble for - not true, I don't specifically go looking because I'd rather not know. Knowing hurts. But if I see something than yes I'm going to confront him. He always accuses me of blowing up and attacking him, but that's not the case...I'm not an aggressive person, not until he attacks me. Usually I'll send a short message asking him about something, and he's the one that blows up - sending me 5 to 10 voice messages on facebook, one after the other. He says he should be allowed to do whatever he wants when it comes to watching porn, and he says that sexually chatting with people doesn't count as cheating. He also was looking into a dating website, and that he should should be allowed to since we aren't married yes...

    I made similar promises to myself, and yet here I still am. I told myself I'd never stay with someone who cheated. But then the addiction became clear and I've felt like I have to forgive him for these things, like he can't help it.
     
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  6. Queen_Of_Hearts_13

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    This! The way he is speaking to you is absolutely disrespectful. Please, do not put up with that abuse. Addiction doesn't give anyone an excuse to abuse someone.

    Also my husband lied to me for a year about his PMO. It was only when I found everything did he start changing. I set boundaries and consequences. The thing about boundaries and consequences is that the consequence is something you have to be able to follow through on, and the consequence has to be something that he wouldn't want to happen.

    For instance, if my husband isn't doing recovery work, the consequence is that I do my own thing and don't hang out with him and I act like we are roommates until he takes our relationship recovery seriously. This works because his favorite thing is spending time with me, so for him to have me not really interact with him is something that he would hate and want to avoid.

    Also, I told my husband that words like cunt, bitch, whore, slut, pussy, tits, etc. were not going to be tolerated because those are very disrespectful words to describe women and womens body parts. He still on occasion slips up when we fight or when he wants to piss me off, but I make it damn clear that I won't continue to talk to him if he uses words like that. That usually gets him to realize he is out of line.
     
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    That is the effect of gaslighting. Careful with direct confrontation though. AnonymousAnna has a great thread for resources!
     
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  11. A new day

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    Generally I’m in favor of working out relationships. But one has to ask oneself if it’s wise to continue to invest in a relationship that seems to be full of sickness. Married with children, yes perhaps one goes the extra mile. Boyfriend/girlfriend in two separate cities. This looks like asking for unnecessary misery.

    Not trying to tell you what to do. But I’m wondering what are you getting out of this that’s worth all this nasty treatment?
     

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