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Are there lonely women like there are lonely men?

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Adam_714, Oct 16, 2022.

  1. Adam_714

    Adam_714 Fapstronaut

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    Disclaimer: This ain't an opinion piece or something meant to offend anyone. Just tryna understand something

    I recently started off with some dating related books that have been telling me 3 things essentially:
    1. Work on yourself & something more than just your day job (something you're passionate about)
    2. Approach women coz they ain't approaching ye (they might give signs but defs not approaching you - it's all to do w/ evolution & not ego & I'll leave it some other day)
    3. Be honest when approaching (Be yourself, give the honest reason for why you approached rather than the notorious pickup shit)
    This all makes sense. What also makes sense is that a lot of men overcomplicate things and go the pickup industry way and there are others who are too shy to even approach and end up spending their lives like a loner.

    However,
    I often see women (mostly young) walking their dogs in parks all alone, working out at the gym all alone, going to or returning from parties all alone and doing bunch of different stuff, that I normally see couples do together, all alone.
    I also recently saw these articles related to how women prefer being alone rather than in a toxic relationship and others where women complain how the men w/ good personality don't even approach or are too shy (in a cringe way) to be approached.
    My question is: Are there women out there who are lonely and seeking an authentic relationship like many loner men?
     
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  2. Abel100%

    Abel100% Fapstronaut

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    Realmente pienso que ellas sienten alguna soledad emocional, pero nosotros sentimos algo sexual y luego emocional que en principio impulsa al hombre a iniciar el acercamiento, y por ende hasta estar dispuesto a dar más que ellas en las relaciones, eso me pasó a mi, ahora quizás esté dispuesto a dar 50/50 pero no creo encontrar a alguna mujer que desee estar en ese nivel conmigo....No a mi edad
     
  3. beat_it

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    The simplest way to befriend a woman - give her money or buy her something. And if you don't have money, you probably shouldn't be bothering them away.

    Also working two jobs kinda sucks, even if one is your hobby.
     
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  4. What makes you think giving women money or buying her something just to talk to her would work? It seems kind of desprate and pathetic at least from my perspective.
     
  5. beat_it

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    I never said you should buy a woman something in order to talk to her. I said if you want to befriend, then you should consider giving her money or buying her something. Why? Because it works, son.
     
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  6. how is this work actually, I wonder?
    In a real scenario I mean.
     
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  7. she-dernatinus

    she-dernatinus Fapstronaut

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    Because many men are under the impression that women are well-fare seekers, who have the urge to latch into a man who shows them enough signs he's going to be a well-fare provider.
     
  8. I see. But then they won’t be friends, really, if we are stick with the old fashioned meaning of the word ‘friendship’. Perhaps co-existence?
     
  9. she-dernatinus

    she-dernatinus Fapstronaut

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    It is true, because many young men who had the potential to be decent partners ended up falling into the trap of incel/red pill culture. And after seeing the recent, insane popularity of Andrew Tate and his likes, these beliefs became even more cemented among young women.

    Young women interact on the internet with men, and see a side of them that they won't be able to show if they met them in person, add to it the popularity of highly misgyninistic content on P sites, the way many men online seem thrilled about the idea of putting women back 'where they belong', it's not inconceivable to see that many young women arrived at the conclusion that it's better to stay celibate and play it safe.

    The only difference is that young women aren't going to form an incel-like movement where they will complain about men not giving them what they feel (unjustifiably) entiteled to have: sex and relationships.
     
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  10. Regarding OP question. Sure we do feel lonely. And yes seeking authentic relationship to feel appreciated and safe. But that is only my opinion. I can except the fact that some women seeking well-fare provider as it was mentioned above. I wouldn’t bother my time with them if I were a man. Long term relationship needs sustainability.
     
  11. beat_it

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    Of course you can't just walk up to most women and offer them money like that. So what you do is look for something that you perceive she needs. For instance if she's at a bus stop, maybe you can offer to get her a cab. Or if you see her going to work, you can offer to buy her lunch - something like that. If you're in a restaurant or shop and want to get the number of the one of the workers, try to put yourself in a position where you can give her an above average tip. This strategy doesn't always work, but it does sometimes, and of course you have to be prepared to cut your losses if need be, or else you're going to end up sounding like @she-dernatinus.
     
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  12. Thanks. It gives a different perspective of your statement.
     
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  13. she-dernatinus

    she-dernatinus Fapstronaut

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    It's all done with an ulterior motive, isn't that what he implies ?
     
  14. she-dernatinus

    she-dernatinus Fapstronaut

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    Really sounds like something some pick-up artist would say...
    It always revolves around the idea that women are subconsciously pre-disposed to be gold-diggers. Why does it have to be that way ?
     
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  15. Of course he does.but the first statement sounded like an Escort service scene to me. The second though… I mean as a man you don’t go out without money, right? Women do! Well not every women, ok! I don’t need a stranger money to get my drink or a cab or a lunch. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t appreciate the gesture. But. I we wouldn’t be friends. Perhaps friendly.
     
  16. This is men’s idea. Not women’s. I personally would hate to be labelled as gold-digger.
     
  17. she-dernatinus

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    That's the whole problem with this idea. It is centered around the idea that women are instinctively wired to depend on men, and of course it is also based on the idea of hypergamy. Something many borderline sociopathic pick-up artists preached for almost ten years.
     
  18. she-dernatinus

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    I think you should look up the concept of hypergamy, the incel movement and the red-pill. You would understand where those guys we encounter online get those cheesy ideas, and what is the commonly spread, ideological foundation they derive it from.
     
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  19. silex_jedi

    silex_jedi Fapstronaut

    well there is that idea... but honestly we don't want "parasitic" partners (meaning not able to get to work and be able to do something, though they might have the potential) do we? @she-dernatinus what do you think?
     
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  20. This idea based on a cliché. Therefore it is exists in a subatomic level and therefore has a hype around it. Reality is different. However what would a society say about a woman who is brave enough to use the same lines to have a conversation with a man on the street or offer a cab or a tipp. I think the lunch would work.
     

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