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wishing the internet would disappear

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Deleted Account, Dec 12, 2023.

  1. Is there anyone who thinks like me? Am I the only one who wants devices such as the internet, phones and computers to disappear or remain in their original versions? Wouldn't it be better if the phone was used only for making calls and keeping data on the computer?
     
  2. AbelHimself

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    Yes, but mostly, I just wish I hadn't had a computer as a kid.
     
  3. I wish I had been better guided and monitored by my introduction to the internet. It's just so darn hard getting lost in it.
     
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  4. SirQwerty

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    I'm going to have some time off of school and work soon so I hope to have time to go "Monk Mode". I'm tired of computers as a whole, I just want to enjoy nature, keep my mind clear
     
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  5. One of my pet peeves is when people say "am I the only one....?" The answer is no, you are not. Out of 8.1 billion people that exist, it would be a miracle if you were the only one who thought the way you did.

    I would classify your position as a form of Neo-Luddism.

    Me personally, I don't hate the internet nor do I want to see it go away. I think it can be a very useful tool. I do think there should be a paradigm shift though, as I don't believe I should have to pay to be protected from seeing porn on the internet. If people want to view that crap, they should have to pay to access it. I don't care what anyone says about protecting "free expression" as that's just malarkey. People can't go fuck in public without legal consequences. They shouldn't be able to do it on the public web either.

    Families shouldn't have to pay crazy filtering monthly plans just to protect their kids from smut.
     
  6. In my opinion, the only good thing was that it showed people's true colors. I have seen the disgustingness within them and the disgraceful actions they can commit under the name of phenomenon.
     
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  7. I don' get what you mean by this, can you elaborate?
     
  8. People have been undressing long before the internet and social media. The sad reality is when it comes to tools, humans will either utilize them for good or for nefarious purposes. A hammer can help someone build a house or crush a person's skull. Does this make the hammer inherently bad? No. The same can be said for the internet. There is a lot of good that has come out of the internet like: Long-lost relatives have been reunited; charity and monetary support given to those in need; relationships made; families connected; work found; expansion of education, and I'm sure so much more. What do you say about that? You want that to go away too? I would hope not.
     
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  9. The truth is that if the harm outweighs the benefit, we do not benefit.
     
  10. Amen, @Saspriluh! Much evil in this world is kept safe in the name of "free speech" or "freedom of expression". When a child can go on the internet and access mind damaging material and there are no default safeguards, this is wrong.
     
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  11. Meshuga

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    You can't make that choice for everyone. You can't stuff all that back in Pandora's Box. So what do you do?
    You do that. Restrict your own access.

    You can rail about what it's doing to society, exacerbating all of the anti-social behaviors we already had, enabling corruption, encouraging consumerism, etm., but you aren't responsible for society. Thank God, because you have no power over society. But you do have power over yourself. You can choose what you do today, and today you can unplug from the Internet.

    So what are you going to do? Whine, or do something about it?
     
  12. What I'm doing is not whining, but expressing an opinion. When you take precautions, there will be no such thing as the internet.Also, the reason we're here is, let me guess, the internet?
     
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  13. Meshuga

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    I get that. It all depends on where in the process you are about expressing your opinion. If it's early in the process, that's fine. If you reason it out, though, and keep talking about something that can't be changed, or talking about something you refuse to change, it transitions from expression to whining.

    I don't understand the precautions erasing the Internet, though, that's... There's no universe where that's true. I think if you take precautions, you can mitigate some negative aspects of the Internet, but short of worldwide apocalypse I don't think there's anything that can turn the Internet into a non-thing. Care to elaborate?
     
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  14. I would like to point out that I want to go back to the beginning. The 90s, when social media was not yet born. Of course we cannot delete the internet, but as I said, I wish it didn't happen.
     
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  15. Meshuga

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    But... but you can't. I wish the same thing. I wish I had a billion dollars and a pony too.
     
  16. LoL.
    I hope it happens :)
     
  17. Wait, you don't feel the same way about the printing press as you do the internet? What about T.V.?
     
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  18. No. I couldn't figure out what kind of connection the printing house has with the internet. For television, it is not important whether there is a television or not. After all, not all people can share something on television or do immoral things to earn income. Of course, there are erotic images on television, but rest assured, they are not as accessible as internet porn. and it has nothing to do with the internet.
     
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  19. The purpose of asking your position on other mediums of technology is to see whether you treat them with the same ridged standards as you do the internet. It appears you don't, and it looks like the biggest factor as to why this is the case comes down to accessibility. If there was a way to make the internet less accessible, would you then change your position on the internet?
     
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  20. Meshuga

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    The point being, the printing press was a technological revelation that sent shockwaves through every aspect of life; religious, political, educational, relational. People died. A lot of people died, over the proliferation of the printing press, I don't think modern people understand or appreciate this enough, maybe they don't even know. Maybe they were never told, maybe one of the great ironies of the printing press is that it isn't used to inform people about how significant it was. But now in retrospect, we can see that in aggregate, the printing press was a good thing. We just had to get through the growing pains. As for TV, this was another tech innovation that caused a huge moral panic. You want to go back to the 90's, I was there for the 90's man, they were wringing their hands about TV. I grew up without one, my parents thought it was that bad and we were so weird for doing it, but still people were talking about the corrupting influence, and the dumbing down from kid's cartoons, the mindless nature (before reality TV!), the passive entertainment, the potential TV had for spreading propaganda. They complained about it, just most people didn't have the moral fortitude to do anything about it on a personal level, and of course nobody could stuff that genie back in the bottle. You know the book Fahrenheit 451, that everyone now says is about the 1st Amendment and book burning? Bradbury wrote that as a prophetic warning against television. He wasn't saying the government was going to swoop in and burn all our books out of nowhere, he was saying people are going to ask the government to swoop in and burn their books because they are all going to be pacified by the mindless drug of nonstop entertainment, and educated people are going to become aware of a better possibility and rock the boat. Technological innovation has always made people nervous and regretful, that's @Saspriluh 's point and it's one well made.

    On the other hand, @zadxmq 's point is, the press and TV are all well and good, but the Internet is a step above, man, the Internet is its own thing and i have to say, I don't see as eloquent an argument from him but he still has a point. I grew up in an era where porn was printed. My first encounter with it was as a kid, my friends found a magazine in the woods, probably left by some other kid who found it in his dad's drawer and took it out there for some privacy. I grew up in an era where porn was on TV, on VHS. I still don't think I would have gotten addicted like I have, because those means took way more effort. There were lines you had to cross. With Internet, unlimited porn is available on impulse. I got started by searching underwear ads on JC Penny dot com and glam pics of Heidi Klum on ebay.

    But I'll reiterate my point. "I wish the Internet didn't happen" might be a true sentiment, but it's not useful. We can commiserate about it, or any of the other tech innovations, and we can argue back and forth about the merits and the problems, but it's not going to happen. So can we turn this into actionable intel? What are we going to do about it? For ourselves?

    I say, if it's getting to you, unplug. Don't stop at complaining about how it's making your life worse. Put the phone away. Put the computer down. Touch grass.
     
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