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[TRIGGER] Thinking of buying pantyhose and living out fantasies as I'm moving out

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Deleted Account, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. I'll be moving out soon due to new job and my mind is going crazy whether I should buy things like nylon pantyhose and finally live out my fantasies.

    On the one hand, I'm excited (even if I were to buy this stuff - I'm thinking of buying: nylon pantyhose, nylon stockings, nylon knee socks and nylon socks, leggings, flats, and sex toy stuff like condoms, lube, vibrator, maybe even small buttplugs for beginners - I'd still buy it online and discretely because of my paranoia).

    But on the other hand, I'm afraid that I'm gonna spiral down into a deep depression like drug users do. I mean, even right now, if I got the home alone for me and "live out as much as I can" (for example, instead of a vibrator, I download a vibrator app), I get so deeply depressed that I don't wanna do anything at all, not even staying in contact with other people, and just stay in my own "sex dungeon" forever.

    It's kind of as if a smoker would refuse to stop chain smoking in order to go attend a meeting at work or do other stuff. This is more or less the only comparison I can think of. Simply my problem is that if I do live out those fantasies and buy all the stuff needed, I will not enjoy life and other stuff because "I can just fap and orgasm" or "dress like a woman". Orgasms become my life so to speak, my only purpose to continue living will be orgasms.

    So I don't know what to do. On the one hand I'm gonna regret if I won't use the opportunity to live out my fantasies, and the other hand, it will make me fall into a deep depression as all I will think of will be orgasms (while everything else just sucks and is uninteresting).

    It's just as if it is the perfect way to escape reality. Some play video games, some do drugs, but I dress like a woman. Reality sucks and this is the only way to make it more exciting.
     
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  2. You won't regret it if you don't act out, that's just the addict part of you trying to make you give in. Don't listen to that voice. You said yourself that you'll get depressed if you do, so don't. If you life sucks, don't use coping mechanisms to make yourself feel better, do things that ACTUALLY make your life better.
     
  3. I mean, I do regret not having crossdressed more when I was younger and physically smaller (back when I was still able to fit into my mom's nylon knee socks for example, right now I would rip them completely apart - which would be another reason why I'd have to buy pantyhose online as there are no "super plus sized" pantyhoses available in regular stores). And if I won't do it now, I would beat myself up for not having used that chance. That's what I'm afraid of kinda.

    I know I'll be depressed if I give in. But the longer I go the harder I find it to "remember" how I've felt post-relapse. So my addict mind tells me things like: "Even if you get depressed, just treat your depression by indulging in other things like junk food, vaping (I'm not vaping but my addict mind is constantly telling me to try it), CBD, video games, consumerism,...)" It's telling me: "The best orgasm in the world is worth the worst depression in the world".

    I don't know WHAT would make my life better. Are there any tests (?) where I could find out what I really desire and what I'd really need to change? Because right now I feel like wearing a VR headset knowing that if I take it off there'll be nothingness.
     
  4. Sounds like you're in the trenches now. So, I wish you well.

    If you want my two-cents, the worst depression in the world is NOT worth the best O in the world. Addicts often feel like they 'aren't themselves' when they aren't indulging. Something is missing, they are 'missing out'. I think we can all relate to this. In this case PMO fills that gap, and allows us to be ourselves. Amazing right?!

    What if I told you that PMO only fills that gap, because it created that gap. It solves a problem that it created. And by stopping PMO, yes it will suck, but stopping PMO for long enough also means that the gap it created will close - and you will find your true self again.

    It's also important to note that we aren't addicted to cross-dressing, or sissy P (SP), or even regular PMO. We are addicted to the dopamine spike that it provides! You don't want to crossdress, you want the dopamine that the excitement provides. Please, do some research into 'supernormal stimuli' - Basically, P, junk food, social media, are all exaggerated ways to fulfil our 'monkey brain' desires. But they are so over the top, so extreme, that they result in unnatural dopamine spikes, making anything else seem bland, boring, plain. The solution to living a happy life is simple: cut out super-stimuli, and use those tools to your advantage, don't let the corporations that create them use you.

    So, what would make your life better? You already know that answer. You don't need a test to find out what you desire, what you need to change. It is all clear to you, deep down, what you need to do. The question is whether you will do it. Our brains have changed very little over the last 50,000 years. But life even 150 years ago was drastically different to life today. We aren't prepared for life in the 21st century, but here we are.

    My advice is to try going 90-days completely PMO free. Go monk-mode. Give it everything. If after those 90-days you still feel the desire to cross-dress, I wish you well. If you don't, then you know it was only your addiction to dopamine causing the desire. Cross-dressing goes way back before P was invented, there is nothing wrong with it! But if it makes you feel depressed afterwards, that is a very clear sign that it is a P, or dopamine induced desire.

    Good luck my friend. I hope you find happiness.
     
  5. I have been watching sissy content for about 6 years now and one thing I realized is the fun will not last forever. One day you will grow old and ugly and all of that crap wont mean a thing anymore, not that it ever did to begin with. I want a wife and kids some day and if I pursue the path of a sissy I will never have those things I truly desire. One of the grossest things to me is seeing middle aged men dressed as women.
     
  6. The crossdressing fetish was there before I started watching P. I was as young as 11 when I started crossdressing secretly using my mom's clothes like nylon knee socks, and I only started watching P when I was 16.
     
  7. And i on the other hand think it'd be awesome to dress up as a MILF or GILF, especially once we all become old and ugly.

    I am like on day 4 or something, and already I had tons of sex dreams.

    one dream was about generating nylon foot pics with AI, today's dream was about giving a BJ to a very realistic dildo which could get hard and ejaculate, while I was dressed as a blonde bimbo
     
  8. CodeTalker

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    Don't do it. I understand, even though I'm not into that at all, I know what it is to set aside your only source of pleasure in life. But as you said, you will just be more miserable at the end of the road. It's really a short term view.

    Do you watch a lot of sissy/hypno video ?
     
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  9. That's the thing, I don't watch them at all. If I PMO (which occurs around once a week), I watch:

    nylon foot porn, footjobs, femdom which is things like foot worship, ruined/forced orgasms and milking, cumming on women especially face and feet

    But sissy? No, except if it is maybe a "feminization femdom" thing but for some reason these videos are rare and not that popular.
     
  10. roifwoha

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    There is SO MUCH WISDOM in these observations! You might deny them, or fight against them, but based on my own experience, they are the truth. Based on some of your responses, it sounds to me like your dopamine-addled brain is trying to argue and rationalize.

    To me, rationalizing is the most potent weapon my brain has to "talk me into" misbehaving. You know:

    "Just a little peek"
    "You're strong, you can stop any time"
    "You've earned a break"
    "What's wrong with a little
    (insert specifics here)? Its not hurting anyone."

    Bottom line is, you're either on the right path or you're not. Falling off the path may not be fatal ("I can always start again"), but so many people just live in a cycle of struggling and failing.

    In my experience, temptation comes in waves. For me, it's like every 5-6 days, it builds and peaks. Your experience may differ, but if you learn to look at it as just surviving the next wave, you can be confident that it will break, and you'll have some relief on the other side.

    Good luck!
     
  11. Is it possible that you have a feet/nylon fetish? It would make sense for this to quickly turn into you wearing the nylon socks, as our brains release more dopamine as we do something 'risky' or 'taboo' - that's how many of us end up into sissy or trans content. Things just escalate.

    It's totally normal to have a fetish for feet/nylon/women's clothing. Our ancestors used to cross dress all of the time. It's also somewhat normal to feel depressed after indulging in our fetishes, and the reason behind that is deep but I'll try to summarise. As you may or may not know, fetishes typically originate from childhood trauma, not always, but typically. For example, my sissy urges certainly come from never being 'good enough' for my dad. It just is what it is. Our brains develop fetishes as a sort of coping mechanism for this, and we never actually handle the problem that kickstarted it all in the first place. My guess would be that indulging in a fetish that covers up past trauma, may cause that trauma to come back to the surface subconsciously.

    I didn't want to assume that you have had any traumatic experiences, but I did think that you may find it interesting or helpful. Unfortunately, it can take time to determine the exact cause of our negative fetishes. And that sucks. But, this is what improving yourself feels like. It isn't easy.

    I also did some research below and found some info here: https://psychcentral.com/disorders/fetishism-symptoms#what-is-it

    It isn't easy, but if I were in your position I would look further into Transvestic disorder, which does seem to correlate with what you've told us. Because you're on NoFap, I would also of course advise you to, at the minimum, avoid P all together. P simply isn't good for a life well lived. Lastly, I'd see a therapist. Specifically, a sexual therapist. Depending on your age and location there are usually free therapists that can help you - you'd be amazed at how much just chatting with someone can help you. I never actually told my therapist anything of substance, but speaking out loud always allowed me to internally connect the dots and solve my root problems. I would not be where I am today if it weren't for my therapist, even though he likely had no idea the extent of my reason to be there.

    Best of luck with your journey. Please, try to put lifelong happiness above short-term. Think about yourself laying in your hospital bed surrounded by friends and family. Do you want to look back on a life of regret? A great technique when in moments like these is to visualise your funeral after 90 years (dark, I know.) What would you want people to remember about you? What would you want people to say about you? Did you live your best life, wearing your heart on your sleeve, were you kind and thoughtful? Did you dedicate your life to something you were deeply passionate about? What will be your legacy? We don't live for long but we impact the rest of history through the people we interact with.

    Whatever you decide to do, keep this in mind.
     
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  12. Yes, definitely. I know what caused this, but knowing the causes doesn't help me.

    Basically I've been longing to live out these fetishes (with either another person or by cross dressing) since puberty.

    At the beginning MO was enough, then when I was like 16 PMO was enough, now I'm 10 years older and PMO starts to be not good enough anymore. I feel like I need "more", like the time has come (no pun intended) to live it out with either a real person or alone by crossdressing.

    Will I do it? Probably not because I'm too paranoid, and if at all, then it'll be cross dressing which again will not be satisfactory anyway as I'd have to shave my whole body (something I won't do as others might notice and keep asking).

    A third option might be VR-PMO or lucid dreaming.

    It's like a smoker who got used to Marlboro Lights and needs regular Marlboro Reds to feel satisfied.

    Watching P just makes me miserable because instead of satisfying me, it frustrates me as it shows what "I'm missing out in real life". Instead of let's say looking at women's nylon feet online and admiring them, what I think is "why am I torturing myself with what I don't have in real life? How I wish I could step into that picture".
     
  13. All the items I'd like to buy are very cheap to buy where I live online. Like just 5 USD for a vibrator for example. So if I'd buy everything I'd want it'd probably cost me no more than 20 USD. I keep looking at online shop for those items.

    Used (nylon) socks also go for as low as 7 USD. More like 10 USD. But here I'd be afraid of someone using some private information (even if it is just my phone number). But on the other site, it's like the Amazon of worn-things-fetish website in my country.

    Honestly, it's so tempting that i think 24/7 of it. I wake up with these thoughts, and go to sleep with these thoughts. Even if I PMO, after 15 minutes these thoughts appear again.

    All i can think of is:

    me in my bed wearing nylon pantyhose, my penis in a condom and me pressing the vibrator against the head/frenulum of my penis

    I simply chase the next big high. Something I wanted to do for 15 years is so close. But I know that I have to say "No!". It's so unfortunate. But I have to say no if I want to function in any kind of way. I know that if I say yes, I will spend 80% of my time with indulging in sexual activities and would do the absolute bare minimum if it comes down to job and stuff, just enough so no one will fire me.

    Please, I need help, I am on the brink of PMO escalation.
     
  14. fusion47

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    The fact that you would wear a condom while doing this tells something. Youre not using it for its intended purpose. Condoms and all the other stuff are sexual objects, so because of that it gives you a lot of dopamine. You keep feeding these feelings by continuing to think about them and want them. You HAVE to get a substitute hobby ASAP. Your brain is programmed to want that since theres nothing else seemingly going on in your life. Consider that your step 1. If you relapse, try to do it ONLY to vanilla stuff. Only worry about preventing escalation.
     
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  15. I'd only use condoms because I don't want to leave a mess. I'm not fetishizing them, it's just that they're practical in not leaving a mess behind.

    I mean, there are other things going on in my life. But I can basically allow myself to PMO nearly all day long when I'm at home. The only way I see how I'd stop thinking about these fetishes would be if I was in a survival situation, like being super poor and having to work 12 hours 6 days a week, or if I were in combat in war. In this perspective, my fetishes and PMO problems would be silly and stupid. But right now, I'm in such a comfortable situation that it keeps bothering my mind.

    I tried looking for hobbies. But all the time I try to do then, I always think about my fetishes all the time. I can't focus. Why? Because I feel like a blonde bimbo in a P film, where she is let's say coding in the beginning and then later proceeds to get fucked.

    I really have trouble focusing on my life and work right now even though I haven't bought anything yet (let alone moved out). I feel like an alcoholic constantly thinking of alcohol, neglecting work and friendships.
     
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  16. fusion47

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    I wish i could be more helpful, but i dont know what else there is to say. Youre in really deep. Whats motivating me to stop is that i want to be a mature, masculine man and a good person. I want a girlfriend more than anything and im order for that to happen i cant be a perverted sexual degenerate. Theres other areas i need to improve in as well, such as emotianl intelligence.
    So what is your goal? It seems like youre not motivated to stop beyond the need to keep up appearances for the sake of income. You have to find why youre even fighting this. Personally, the more i relapse, the more disgusting i feel, the more i feel the need to get away from all of this shit. Whats stopping you from giving it your all?
     
  17. I want to stop because I see how much time and energy it costs. What's stopping me from giving it all is my wish for relaxation and satisfaction. It's the same reason why I keep eating unhealthy and keep being lazy. I want comfort and relaxation. Why? Because I'm not getting it otherwise, or at least not enough. My batteries are constantly not charged. Sleep does not charge it at all.

    I do not mean mental relaxation! I mean physical relaxation! Like a very good night sleep, sauna, massage (not the sexual ones). I would need something to charge my batteries, then I would have enough energy and discipline for the rest of the day.

    And it's just that currently the next best thing of physical relaxation would be indulging in my fetishes, and it would take days to weeks of indulgences until I finally will feel as relaxed as I want.

    The most relaxed I feel right now is after I PMO twice in a row. The first one feels normal, but the second fap as soon as you're physically able to do so makes me feel like I'm on heroine. After the second O, I feel like Kenny in that South Park cat piss episode. Hell, I even listen to "Take a ride on heavy metal" afterwards!
     
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  18. I don't want a partner at all, absolutely zero interest. Why should I become the best version of myself? I'm a hedonist in the sense that what I seek is a general happiness compared to short bursts of happiness followed by depression.

    It's OK if you don't understand me. Basically I see PMO and fetishes as a way to physically relax. If there was a button on my head which could give me a 3 times bigger orgasm than PMO, I would rather press this than to PMO. That's why I'm talking of vibrators and stuff, as my goal is to make orgasms bigger and thus relax better.

    Yes, I don't wanna be a [content removed by the moderation team] because I do feel ashamed of my PMO habits and thoughts. What I mean is that I wish to relax by other means than PMO.

    It is as if your not able to poop, and PMO are your laxatives. But you're ashamed and it costs lots of time and energy to take those laxatives, so you want to take different laxatives for your you won't be ashamed of and will not cost you much time and energy.
     
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  19. Heypleasehelpme

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    Best of luck for yoyr journney...
     
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  20. Reborn16

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    You've got some great responses, and I think this one above in particular is worth another read.

    OP you said
    and this sums up your situation quite well.

    It's not easy to fix, but it is simple. You need to build a life you don't want to escape.

    I went through a CD phase in my teens and 20s. It was obsessive, and escalated to the point where I was trying to arrange encounters, changing my mind at the last minute, throwing all my outfits and stuff out, before restarting the cycle the next week. It was the most empty time of my life.

    I say all that because it's a common pattern. Lots of guys go through this. Cross dressing may be a fun hobby as well, but if it's literally ruining your life then it's time to move on.

    Just know lots of us, myself included, have been real into this and made it out without wanting to go back.

    And one last thing, as you're currently in the midst of lots of artificial stimulation, you can't actually trust what feels great or not for the moment. What might be a great hobby for you might seem boring if your brain is literally out of normal calibration.

    Try to use porn as little as possible. And if you go there, try vanilla, even solo pictures instead of video will significantly reduce your stimulation and let you get back to real life quicker. Give it some time for life to feel good again!
     

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