Question, which benevolent God would allow porn to exist?

I've been in such churches. I was a member of such a church and have experienced a 'miracle' myself. I'm open to the idea of God existing but I can't say for sure there is a God. I find science can give us answers to what takes place when 'miracles' take place. There's a podcast called How God Works where they go into the science of religion. They did one episode where they looked at the subject of healing.

 

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I probably shouldn’t respond since such threads are mostly baited traps, but this is how I view it.

Most say if God was benevolent there would be no suffering, sin, death, or disease in the world. Well, this is true and when God created the world and the garden of Eden there was none of those things. One must understand that such a world was a gift, and it’s important to understand this as it helps one understand our current situation.

The world we live in today is the world Adam chose for us and NOT the world God chose for us. You might ask, why are we suffering for Adam’s sin? Well, as being the patriarch of mankind Adam chose for all mankind; he understood his role and he understood the impact his sin would have on the rest of mankind. When he chose to sin, he did so knowing how it would impact negatively the rest of the human race after him.

Now because no one is entitled to a gift, when Adam lost them for all of humanity, as was his free choice, God is in no way obligated to restore them; It is also not unjust if God does not restore them either. This means ANY help God gives is an act of mercy which we don’t deserve; obviously, if we deserved it, it would be an act of justice, but I digress.

At the end of the day, it is not unjust for God to permit the existence of a world Adam chose for himself and us as this was his role as patriarch of all mankind. It’s not unjust for God to permit this to run its course until He deems it finished.

Yet God in His mercy has extended a hand of forgiveness and gave us His Son. Jesus came to take on the sins of man so that you might not only be freed from sin and it’s emptiness, but restored not just back to the perfection of Adam but to the divine nature of the Son of God.

In short not only has God given you a Life-line in this world Adam created, in order to get you out safely, but He’s gone further and said in the world to come, He will treat you as His Son.

Sadly, instead of thanking Him for this mercy and priceless gift, we moan and complain about how we demand our paradise here and now in Adams wasteland. And we primarily do this because of our pride and attachment to worldly sensual things.

We sit here and call God vicious when it’s us who are vicious and void of love.

 

God created the world knowing in advance that Adam would choose to eat the fruit (because he's omniscient). This is the world God wanted; there's no way around that.

 

God wanted a world that would allow free will. The world He made and the world He permitted to exist after Adam’s fall still accomplishes this end. But to say his permitting will is the same as his ordaining will is incorrect.

 

I was thinking about it last night, guys and I guess what it comes down to is any time you put omni- in front of anything, it leads to problems for us humans. We simply can't understand the actions of an omnibenevolent, omnipotent God because we ourselves are so limited. Everything in this world is defined by some sort of limit, be it the skin, walls, borders, what have you. Omni is impossible to understand because it implies perfection and infinity. We can't even begin to comprehend infinity because infinity has no beginning. So, frankly, trying to understand God is an exercise in futility. If God had desired for us to understand 'why,' he would have made us like himself. As it stands, he made us dinky, little humans. I think our best chance at understanding is through the reward of the beatific vision in heaven. Then it will all make sense. Until then, try and live a good life and try not to overthink it.

 

It’s true that when it comes to God there will always be mystery as God cannot be fully comprehended. It’s untrue to say that this therefore means nothing can be known about God; both from natural revelation or divine revelation.

It is true that Gods perfections make us limited in our comprehension of His actions; for example you say God knew Adam would sin but this language falls short as God isn’t subject time so Adam’s earthly existence and now heavenly existence are, and have always been, lived as one big present moment to God. To us Adam was in the past but to God Adam is in the present as the entirety of my life and yours is always in the present with God.

 

Adam is only the beginning of the story. You can believe that God allowed it or ordained it but either way He gave us Jesus to save us from the actions of Adam and because the most sinful act in history being the arrest and murder of the Son of God has brought such grace into the world, there is not a sin we can do that can't be turned into grace