Pornography, Human Trafficking, and Sex Slavery

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  1. Weiland

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    I am... not entirely sure how to start this thread. I've been putting a lot of time and thought into it, but to be honest, it's not a subject I feel completely and totally qualified to elaborate on thoroughly. There are still details I'm not fully versed on. Still, I think I need to write this - and the content you are about to read could very well give you the silver bullet needed to kill your pornography addiction once and for all.

    So, here goes.

    Here are some rough statistics for you all to consider:

    • Every second, 28,258 Internet users are viewing pornography.
    • American children begin viewing pornography at an average age of 11.
    • About 67% of young men and 49% of young women believe that viewing pornography is acceptable.
    • The pornography industry is a $97 billion industry worldwide, with child pornography taking in at least $3 billion.
    • Child pornography is one of the fastest-growing online adult businesses.

    Keep these figures in mind while you read. Some of them are a bit outdated, but only in that the numbers have gotten worse, not better, since they were generated.

    I remember sitting in the car with my old youth pastor a year or so back. We had a pretty strong connection back then - used to talk about all sorts of things after the youth meetings were over. He was a good-tempered man with a penchant for asking really, really good questions that made you think. I respected that about him quite a bit - still do, in fact. On this particular night, he asked me if I'd considered what I wanted to do with my life.

    "Sure," I answered. Everyone has at some point. I'd always had a penchant for system design and I was quite interested in drumming up content for some of the new card and board games I was designing. I'd also considered a career in writing, as well as a potential stint in politics. Even law enforcement seemed somewhat appealing to me, here and there.

    "Have you thought about sex trafficking?" His question threw me off, because he phrased it almost as if it were a potential business venture (which, ironically, is one way of looking at it). After laughing, my youth pastor explained. "Which country do you think is number one in human and sex trafficking? And not even international imports - I'm talking about domestic internal trafficking."

    I thought about it. A few countries came to mind - a few south of the border, a couple across the seas, perhaps somewhere in southeastern asia, like the Philippines or China. Made sense; you're always running across something like that. But, then I noticed that he had put emphasis on the word "domestic".

    "Wait a minute. Here?"

    He nodded. "Interesting, isn't it? You'd never expect it, but sex trafficking is alive and kicking in our own country - and we're talking in a big way, here." I pressed him for more information, but it was already late and he'd mentioned putting his kids to bed at a decent time. That was how Andrew worked; he put a seed in your heart and then let it germinate and take root before he fertilized it.

    A few days later, I was screwing around on Facebook and noticed a link that he'd posted on his wall, and had also tagged me on. I won't really go over the content of the video - you've probably figured that out by now - but it was a suggestion regarding "What do you want to do with your life?"

    And, from where I stand right now, I can absolutely say in at least one regard: "Not that."

    By "that", I mean supporting sex trafficking and enslavement in America.

    We all get that PMO is bad. That's why we're here, after all. That's what "NoFap" really stands for - freedom from the destructive tendencies of pornography and masturbation. I posted a thread a week or so ago regarding my perspective on the identity of porn actresses and women in general, and that still applies, but this is a particular topic that requires a bit more depth.

    The stats are out there, but I'll give you a few of them off-hand. Keep in mind that some of these are severely outdated - and I doubt they've improved over the years.
    • About 12-13% of all websites are pornography - that translates to about 25 million.
    • Every second, over $3,000 is spent on porn.
    • Statistically, about 40 million Americans watch pornography regularly every month - an estimated 70% of them are between 18 and 24 years of age.
    • In the U.S. alone, internet pornography pulls about $2.8 billion per year - more than half of the global market.

    "Alright, Weiland. We've established that pornography is a big, booming, virulent business. How does that have anything to do with sex trafficking?" Glad you asked.

    The following are excerpts from an article posted on Covenant Eyes, and I feel that it does an excellent job of hitting the nail squarely on the head:

    I highly recommend the rest of the article. In fact, there are a lot of resources out there - articles, news stories, documentaries, you name it - that work to reveal the epidemic that is the sex trade in the United States. As Fapstronauts, you owe it to yourselves and the women and future women in your lives to understand just what is going on out there.

    And, frankly, to understand that this addiction to PMO we've all been struggling with is feeding the beast not just within, but out there as well. The next time you think about pornography, remember that the woman you're watching is quite likely to be a sex slave of some sort - and she might not even be a woman yet (the mean age for girls to enter into prostitution is, shockingly, 14). Remember that as we feed the lust beast, it continues to feed the beast out there, which continues to victimize women all across the country. And every fap effectively adds another link to the chain that is sexual trafficking and slavery.

    I'm opening the floor to thoughts and opinions. If you can, feel free to supply additional data on the epidemic connection between pornography, prostitution, and sex slavery.
     
  2. beauty

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    Had a presentation back in the day at my highschool about this very subject. Needless to say the gym was eerily dead silent throughout the entire address. Made me sick to my stomach. It was put on by an organization that was just up and coming by the name of "Fight The New Drug", I found the name was quite fitting. Anyway, they touched on the topic of sex slavery, and how all those cheerful, smiling young lady's in the porn videos were, more likely than not, abused and sold into the industry we call porn. That was the first, major wake up call for not just me, but lots of others in that gym.

    Anyone wanting to "fight" this new, foul and vicious drug we so commonly call "porn", please check this website out: http://www.fightthenewdrug.org/

    Thanks for this Weiland, thank you.
     
  3. Weiland

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    I keep tellin' people, man. It's not just about PMO. There's something really deep behind this. It's not just pornography, or masturbation, or casual sex, or immorality. These are just little pieces. We have dozens, hundreds, even thousands of examples of destructive, warped, twisted aspects of sexuality. They all are twisted from the original beauty of what is sexuality. AND WE FEED INTO THAT. That's what makes me sick.

    Thanks for the link. I seriously want other people to start paying attention to this. That iceberg y'all see out there? That's just the tip. There's a fucking leviathan under the surface.
     
  4. humidhumility

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    Interesting and difficult to read through this stuff. Difficult in that, even as I read through the links posted I find myself seeking justification for all that I've viewed. If a former P actress says it was bad for her I automatically think "well that's just her experience. The women I've watched definitely enjoy it." My mind isn't even trying to be subtle. I know I'm wrong as I'm thinking it.

    This is all part of the difficulty of nofap. I'm not that old, but I still remember when P was still something people would hide. Then as I got older it seemed to become more generally accepted. We went from hiding our PMO to suddenly reveling in it, to showing off videos in school. Openly telling of where we could acquire P online.

    I'm not usually one for moral crusades. I prefer people to get on with whatever they enjoy, and I'm sure there are many people who can watch P without the problems I encounter. Still, I'm hoping ideas like those above can begin to seriously challenge the general acceptance of P in society, and the idea that everyone watches it, or that it's "normal."
     
  5. beauty

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    What I've always fathomed is how governments put so much emphasis on drug prevention, even down to marijuana and alcohol, but somehow leave pornography, in the 21st century, suppressed and obscure. Hell to me, young children watching and getting hooked is, in some terms, worse than dabbling with marijuana. Maybe there just isn't enough evidence and data to support this movement, I don't know, but I can't stand how pornography addictions are still in the dark. I feel like if we, as in society, talk about it, and not something groups of teenagers giggle and discuss at sleepovers, we wouldn't have the problem like it is today. It's sickening to me. I'm praying that this movement catches traction in the next couple years, and I honestly believe it will, because this problem is getting too big, and being discussed too little for my likings.
     
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  6. Weiland

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    I have this argument with some of my more laissez-faire friends who believe that, essentially, everything is more or less acceptable and everything is relative; that there are no absolutes, just varying shades of grey. Incidentally, these are also people who disagree on the concept of a moral standard.

    This is one of those many things I believe there is an absolute moral standard for. If we have any definition at all for good and evil that we can all agree on, then no matter how you cut it, this thing called "Pornography" is evil at the core. Even though it paints a pretty picture on the outside, it is wilting death on the inside.

    It's not something we can just dismiss by saying, "Well, it's none of my business." Evil triumphs when good men do nothing; moreover, evil is born from that apathetic inaction. This isn't a thing that can be viewed as good in small doses, nor in moderation; it never stops growing, never stops eating, is never satisfied; it eats away at the lives of men and women alike; it violates even the most sacred of things; it takes advantage of the weak and the unfortunate; it is evil.

    We detest murder almost globally, and we have laws against it. We consider life and liberty to be inalienable rights. We have entire organizations whose sole purpose is (in theory, at least) to prevent human rights violations. Trafficking, forced prostitution, rape, child abuse - if these things aren't abhorrent, evil, and to be fought against with every breath, then I don't know that anything is.
     
  7. Weiland

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  8. humidhumility

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    To both above comments I would say the thing that may make a difference is more evidence. Sites like yourbrain etc are what tipped me towards making a concerted effort to kick this habit. I agree with you Beauty, I also believe this movement, or at least the evidence behind it, will move more into public consciousness. That's something I've noticed in recent months, which helped move me towards finally joining this site.

    For Weiland, I've been thinking lately about the individualistic nature of our society (I'm not from the USA so I mean the West in general). It definitely plays into PMO. Leaders who stand up for moral solutions rarely have an easy ride - at least that's the case where I'm from. If morality is an anchor, then we are very much adrift at sea. So in the absence of any public figure standing up in a serous way to the P industry it comes down once again to evidence, which can hopefully educate enough individuals to make a change and push this line of thought into the mainstream.
     
  9. Weiland

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    Honestly, if I ever get the chance to run for any office, with God as my witness, this will be one of my most aggressive talking points. And if I have the opportunity to actually impact the pornography, prostitution, and trafficking trade, I will jump at the chance.

    There's got to be a way to bring this out into the light. Even if it has to start here, in our own personal lives. That's what NoFap is all about, I reckon.
     
  10. monkotto

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    a very informative post weiland.

    ...'consuming pornography is an experience of bought sex' and thus it creates a hunger to continue to purchase and objectify, and act out what is seen. And in a very literal way, pornography is advertising for trafficking, not just in general but also in the sense that traffickers and pimps use pornographic images of victims as specific advertising for their 'products.'

    this part of the post coincides with my experiences.

    i was very deep in this whole red light world. i dont know how many hookers i had so far. something between 200 and 300. porn reversed all my moral concerns. i was like a sexbeast.

    i wanted to act out scenes form porn movies. i got deeper and deeper into this swamp.

    from my experiences i would say 70 percent of the girls are forced to do this. boyfriends or brothers are the pimps of nearly all the eastern bloc girls. the other 30 percent are doing this only because of the money they can earn in this business. they have no job trainings and no graduations in life. with this job they can earn more than 3000 euro every month.

    many girls do this job and rescue their whole family in poor countries all over the world. they donate themselves.

    the last point i reached was that i had serious thoughts to produce pornmovies with a good friend. he has the whole equipment and i have the contact to the hookers.

    i am really not proud of this. but i have made all this experiences. i cant change this fact. this is a part of my life - i have to live with that.

    like i said it is really like a swamp. once you go into it it is very hard to get out.

    another notion is...

    this is only my subjective opinion - i cant prove that.

    i think 50 percent (or more) of all the pornactors are doing this with their free will. imagine you are sexaddicted. the only thing you want in life is sex. for this people the sexbusiness is in the beginning like a paradise.

    but i am sure they get broken inwardly. externally they show a happy mask. inwardly they are corroded.

    writing helps me to handle all this burden.

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    pornactors earn much more as usual prostitutes and they want the fame at all costs.

    porn is better paid prostitution. at bottom it is the same.

    one is with camera and director - one is without camera and director.

    i think there are three types of beings in this business
    1. the forced one (sex slavery)
    2. the fame and money fixed one (free will)
    3. the sexaddicted one (free will)
     
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  11. jmark

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    Yep. It's all connected. PMO is not victimless.
     
  12. sender

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    I think the weakness of the anti-porn movement currently is that it's perceived as a moral / religious / puritanical / feminist crusade. That is to say that anyone who speaks out publicly against porn is attached to one or more of these labels which marginalizes their voice.

    It's fine to feel strongly about it, but when you "go out into the world" and try to have some impact, I think you'll be more effective if you look at the pragmatic side of how to reduce the exposure of porn to children.

    Let's face it; us grown-ups are done for already. We can recover if we choose to, but we can't be unexposed to porn. It's already out there for us. It's the future generations we have to really worry about.

    Yes, the the way porn is produced is evil, but there is much evil in the world. I can't be bothered with that. It will always be there in some dark corners, and I can choose to avoid them. For me, my part in dealing with the trafficking issue is to not contribute to the demand for it. It's driven by demand - so that's the only way to fight it.

    My biggest problem with porn today is that it's flooding the internet. That it's an opt-out mechanism. In other words, you get porn on all of your computers and devices whether you like it or not, whether you're old enough to decide for yourself or not; and it's a struggle to turn it off completely, which you can't even really do without buying some special hardware! That's just wrong. It would be like having hardcore porn magazines at kid's eye level in every store. That's what we have now. That is the first thing that must change. That is the angle for political action.

    I think the first step would be to require all web browsers to be equipped with a warning such as "you are about to see explicit adult content, do you wish to proceed". And why the hell isn't SafeSearch enabled by default? Seriously...do we really think the default should be to see...well you know what there is to be seen. Not only that, but SafeSearch isn't even that easy to find to turn it on...you have to hunt for it. Do we think that porn addicts would find it too cumbersome to figure out how to turn off SafeSearch? Wtf?!?

    The next step after that would be to require users to verify their age. Just because it's difficult to achieve doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. We absolutely should do it. Porn is ravaging our society...eating it alive like ocular Ebola. Don't get the next generation hooked and you're beginning to get a handle on it...

    Our brains evolved to love that shit...we have no natural defense against it; it's like a predator introduced into a new habitat. The porn industry isn't playing fair, especially because they have so much money which they can use to buy legal favor.

    We have to speak up, speak loudly, but also calmly and logically, or else we risk being labeled as politically fringe and marginalized. That is a strong tactic and it works. So lets be smart and not fall into that trap...
     
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    sender i think this cancer is too enlarged.

    the internet was the broken neck in this topic.

    an incredible boost.

    sexual "freedom" and "no chains" has its own price.
     
  14. vlaw

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    Well let's thank the good God you aren't elected. It's liberal SIMP like you that creates nanny states!

    Me I will continue to PAY. And there's nothing you and the other bitter ass HYPOCRITICAL feminists can do about that.

    Bye!
     
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    Wow. I'm with Weiland, I think councils are pretty good at drug prevention campaigns for the younger generation, raising awareness and such, but continue to ignore one of the worlds bigger drugs today, porn. I think enough is enough. Time to bring this and other reclusive topics into the spotlight. If I had a chance to have a say in office, this would be a topic I would most definitely bring light to.

    Cheers
     
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    Many of the women in porn videos act like they are happy but many are hurting a lot inside. We are deriving pleasure from their suffering by watching porn. That's why it brings me so much guilt when I relapse.

    Edit: check out the former porn star Shelley Lubben's website.
     
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  17. Weiland

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    You know, I'm rather tired of your shit, vlaw. You've been trolling your ignorance around the forum for the last few days, and I've pretty much ignored it, but I'm getting rather sick of being called a feminist because I care that women around the world and all across the U.S. even are being drawn into literal forced sexual slavery. What the hell is a SIMP, anyway? But seriously, feminist? Are you nuts?

    Bitter and hypocritical, too? Do you just pull random words out of thin air without knowing what they actually mean?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. vlaw

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    I was talking about prositution not porn.
     
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    "Literal forced sexual slavery"

    Honestly who's feeding you all that lies/crap/BS??? Is it Hillary Clinton or Harriet Harman? Or one of the other liberal hag?

    I think you need to stop listening to bitter ass feminists.

    Your case is one of the many reasons why I will NEVER marry a western woman. I would hate to be EMASCULATED.

    Live and let live baby.
     
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  20. Weiland

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    Dude, have you been paying attention at all to pretty much anything I've been posting? Read some of the links? Looked up the cited sources in said links? You cannot be that stupid or that ignorant to deny that sex slavery is a thing. No one can be as stupid as you're playing at here; you must be trolling. Yes, you nitwit: literal - forced - sexual - slavery. As in, sex slaves. As in, they're forced to have sex. What part of that are you unable to grasp?

    I have to say, I've never been associated with liberals before. That's definitely an all-time low insult...
     
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