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Permanently getting rid of sex drive?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by dissolve, Jan 21, 2024.

  1. dissolve

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    Obviously, there are negative emotional, psychological and behavioral aspects to flatlining, but I am looking forward to the possibility of having no sexual urges.

    Is there any way to ensure that the lack of sexual urges is permanent? I am not merely interested in freeing myself from addiction, but also to completely suppress my sex drive permanently.

    So my question is: does one gain such a high degree of control over one's sexuality after a certain period that one is able to keep oneself from even experiencing sexual desire, and it simply becomes irrelevant?
     
  2. flapabstainer

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    Are you talking about castration?
     
  3. Why do you want to suppress your sex drive permanently?

    If it is "to stay focused on my work and grind and win at life", you're in for a shock. Sexual drive is the most powerful drive for all animals, including humans. It is why we exist. Instead of working on suppressing that drive, focus on using it, tweaking it to work in your favour. I think this is in Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, worth a read.
     
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  4. tsukuyomi16

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    Our sexual drive is not why we exist.
     
  5. tsukuyomi16

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    Whether or not you are a Christian, the word of Jesus is always interesting. Read this verse of the Bible, Matthew 19:9-12 when Jesus says,

    And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry." But He said to them, "Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it."
    I was pretty shocked when I read this for the first time because it didn't fit into my conception of Christianity, castration. Many men, in the early church especially, did castrate themselves. The modern interpretation isn't physical mutilation but the denying of self for the sake of goodness and truth.

    From what I gather from the Bible (not a clergyman here, just sharing my own fallible interpretation), there are basically three avenues to dealing with sexual drive: 1) get married (but your wife can cheat on you and you will probably desire a divorce, aka new woman to have sex with), 2) castrate yourself physically (that hurts, most men cannot face the loss of pride that comes with it, and such an extreme completely changes your role in society and much of your behaviors), 3) castrate yourself spiritually by denying your physical self (this is the most difficult means to achieve and not many are up for the task). Notice that castration by sexually immoral means, e.g. masturbating to the point of impotency, is not acceptable here.

    For the person who feels that the necessity of producing offspring is an obstacle to their achieving of 'castration', there is this encouraging verse, Isaiah 36:3-5,

    Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely separate me from his people”; and let not the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.” For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.​

    Hopefully that gives you something to think about. I am personally trying for the third option at the moment (spiritual chastity by resisting urges for the sake of goodness) at least until I find a good woman I desire to marry, but who knows if I will ever find such a woman. I might have to control myself until the day I die, and that's one of the burdens of life.


     
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  6. dissolve

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    No. Just discipline.
     
  7. dissolve

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    Well most people who are focused enough on their work to grind and win at life have sex, and IMO, if someone is unable to do well while they have a sex drive, they probably can't do well without one either.

    I want to suppress my sex drive because IMO, the less I feel like I need, the better off I am.
     
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  8. dissolve

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    I'm not a Christian so none of this is relevant to me. Thanks anyway though.
     
  9. tsukuyomi16

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    Got it. Know you're missing out on the highest echelon of philosophy.
     
  10. dissolve

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    I've studied the Bible extensively and published several volumes worth of material on the topic. Very rarely was I impressed.
     
  11. tsukuyomi16

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    Good for you. That is definitely an impressive academic accomplishment.
     
  12. dissolve

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    I will say this, it's very cool that you've gone almost 20 days without PMO.

    It's been 4-5 days or so for me without the P, and this isn't that difficult at all - it's the M and the O that I've been struggling with.
     
  13. tsukuyomi16

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    Yeah dude, this has to be my longest streak ever.

    Its the opposite case for me. MO has always been accompanied by P, the MO was just there as the next step from my P addiction. Maybe the longer you go without P the easier it will be to go without MO.
     
  14. I hear what you're saying, but biologically speaking all animals live to mate. It is the innate desire that leads all that we do. We live to mate so that we can evolve and life moves on. Without that important step, life would have started and ended a billion times over.

    Our sexual drive is not why we exist, in a philosophical sense. But from a biological stand-point it is the single reason that life exists. We live, we mate, we die. So, we must learn to harness that power and not throw it away at pixels on a screen or artificial pleasure. But instead use this desire, and dopamine, to achieve great things and leave the world a better place.
     
  15. tsukuyomi16

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    I relate to what you're saying, "the purpose of life is to continue life." In contrast with you, however, that makes sense to me spiritually but not biologically. You observe a shared biological behavior in life, but what about that observation makes it akin to the biological purpose of life?
     
  16. dissolve

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    I'm very much in favor of sublimating my desire towards higher ends. I suppose I should have made that clear. But I want to know if I can reach a state in which the cravings for sexuality stimulation are so minimal that they are practically irrelevant.

    For example, I have been on a very strict diet for the last 8 months. I consume no wheat, starch or sugar. The cravings for sweets were intense at first, but after a few months, pizza, doughnuts, freshly baked cookies, Doritos and potato chips (my previous guilty pleasures) had become completely irrelevant to me. I am wondering if something like this is possible with NoFap.
     

  17. I certainly do not mean that "the meaning of life" is to reproduce. What I was trying to say is essentially this: "Sex desire is the most powerful of human desires." Essentially, the greatest natural desire of all animals is to reproduce. Upon reflection, I would no longer say that it is biologically "why we exist". But is certainly the strongest desire, we are all aware of that here.

    I think this actually relates to NoFap; so take a look at this: https://arc.net/l/quote/jyvmhcic.

    One interesting note is that all statues of great men in ancient history have small penises, as being in control of your sexual desire was essentially seen as strength. Wouldn't it be the opposite today?
     
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  18. I'm sorry, I do not know the answer. However, as you mentioned diet and the cravings for sugar and snacks diminishing, I would assume it is the same for this. We simply learn to control the cravings and urges and build good habits to replace bad.

    In time things will get better.
     
  19. tsukuyomi16

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    Bro, why aren't you eating bread?? LOL
     
  20. tsukuyomi16

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    I don't give a rat about that new age stuff, but I'm glad you said that about the statues because my own definition of masculinity is similar: discipline, control of ones desire, etc.. Sometimes I get embarrassed that my member is so much bigger than the statues (like it means that from the gate I'm on a lower level than David) but the sculptures probobly made that part smaller for the symbolic reason you mention.
     
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