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Pedophilia

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Mr. Brightside, May 15, 2021.

Have you ever intentionally viewed child pornography? Your username will not be displayed.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    What we consider pedophilia is really 3 different things which conjure very different emotions. Pedophilia, Hebephilia and Ephebophilia.

    Pedophilia:
    This is the attraction to anyone before they have reached puberty. Generally people view this as a bad thing, and it isn't controversial at all to look at it with distain. Before puberty, and boy or girl aren't sexual beings, so introducing them to sex is obvious abuse. The controversy comes down to how someone should be treated if they have these attractions but don't act on them.

    Ephebophilia: This is the attraction to people in their late teens, around 15-19. Honestly what distinguishes when someone is an ephebophile is mostly cultural. For example, in the US, some states the age of consent is 16, others 17, and others 18. Meaning that some states have legalized ephebophilia. And if we are being honest, I think that if this wasn't such a politically incorrect topic you would find that a large percentage if not the majority of the population doesn't have an issue with is. After all, most people lose their virginities at this age.

    Hebephilia: This is the one with the most controversy I believe. This is the attraction to people just entering puberty. Typically this happens around the ages of 11-14. Biologically speaking, females at this age can get pregnant and males can produce sperm. Throughout human history people would often get married off around this age. However, in modern times these individuals are typically seen as still being children. In all honesty I think this is more of a moral grey zone, at least in the context of the entirety of human civilization. My opinion on this is a bit nuanced. I think that the way we've built the society we live in today, it would be abusive to have sex with these individuals because we expect them to still be children and rely on their parents. And it is unreasonable to say they should be treated as adults considering the current responsibilities we place on adults in the modern world. However, I don't think it is fair to judge past societies, or even modern ones that continue this practice, because they may simply have a different way of life and expect that these people are now adults. As far as attraction goes, I think it is more common and normal than people think for adults to be sexually attracted to people in this age group considering that fact that they are biologically capable of reproducing. I don't think they should act on these impulses though.

    I am a bit nervous about posting this as it is very politically incorrect and can be taken the wrong way. But I hope my response was well thought out and can be read with an open mind. Have a good night everybody :)
     
  2. Mr. Brightside

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    Why do you believe that? What else do you think is a cause of pedephilia?

    Thank you for sharing! I've been aware of these distinctions for years now, but I don't think many people are, and they're very important. Also, don't be nervous to share! You don't need to worry about political correctness
     
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  3. Like homosexuals or heterosexuals they are just who they are there's no changing that.

    The actual definition of pedophile is different from what youd expect, it allows for some pedophilic interest and not satisfy the defintion for pedophile, which suggests to me the treatment may to be to change it from your primary sexual interest to your secondary or from frequent urges to infrequent urges, but the attraction would never go imo they likely just make it weaker and help you deal with life and cope with who you think you are. But whos going to seek help especially if they are not a risk and they get treated like a criminal.
     
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  4. TimeToQuitNow

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    You're welcome! I hope it helps :)
     
  5. IGY

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    Best post on this thread so far! :) Thank God somebody actually understands that paedophilia only refers prepubescents.
     
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  6. TimeToQuitNow

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    Thank you!
     
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    Very good article. Thank you!
     
  9. Mr. Brightside

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    Nailed it!
    One of the huge issues is that so many people are trapped in this horribly painful cycle of watching CP, but they don't want to discuss it with anyone because they're terrified of the authorities.
    Thank you for the article!
     
  10. Mr. Brightside

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    NEW TOPIC
    What can we do to help those that struggle with this and want to change? Practical steps, groups, partners, any ideas?
     
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  11. therapy
     
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  12. Mr. Brightside

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    I agree counseling is necessary.
    What about practical steps in addition to nonreporting therapy?
     
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  13. IGY

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    Virtuous Pedophiles - Wikipedia
     
  14. Mr. Brightside

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    Yeah, I've looked into virped before, and they're mission seems to be simply resisting pedophilic desires. That's great, but there isn't really any attempt to change those desires into appropriate ones. That's the issue I have with that organization. Definitely at least somewhat helpful though for sure
     
  15. IGY

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    If someone has paedophilia, a practical step would be to commit to a complete reboot via a NoFap recovery journey. This will not erase the paedophilia per se. If it is porn induced because of escalation to porn, it might idk. Either way, when you reboot it changes your outlook. Previously, I had a dreadful habit of mentally undressing people I was attracted to. I am not a paedophile in case there is confusion on this point. However, I think all of us in this community need to view those we are attracted to as people, not sexual objects for our lustful, selfish fantasies. So, doing NoFap is a practical step in my opinion.
     
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  17. Mr. Brightside

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    I agree! I think another thing alongside/outside of NoFap is to be brutally open and honest with those you know you can trust. Take the door off your hinges, get rid of safari and the app store on your phone, covenant eyes, and calling someone every day about it specifically.

    Huh??
     
  18. IGY

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    Accountability is powerful, even here. But I agree that in-person accountability is by far the best. A friend, a family member can be a powerful ally.
     
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  19. TimeToQuitNow

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    Encourage them to do NoFap for a while. If it was porn induced maybe a reboot will fix it.
     
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  20. pancakebaker99

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    I am by no means an expert on the human mind but I do kind of feel bad for people who have that unwanted sexual attraction towards kids that is only if they are aware it is wrong and have never acted on those urges. I think they are all different depending upon who they are I also think they all need therapy no matter who they are.

    I also think they can be cured again I feel it depends on who they are I have never met anyone who has an attraction towards kids. But I feel change is possible for everybody if they know it's wrong and really want help instead of becoming one of those guys you see on a true-crime documentary or to catch a predator.
     

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