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One last site to quit

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by BananaBread900, Sep 5, 2023.

  1. BananaBread900

    BananaBread900 Fapstronaut

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    Greetings fellow fapstronauts,
    I have been struggling with PMO addiction that escalated to visiting escorts, and have put most of that problematic behavior behind me. I rarely watch porn now and on the rare occasion I catch myself searching for something I'm usually able to stop it and do something else. I haven't seen an escort in almost a year. The temptation is still there sometimes, but I've been able to talk myself out of it every time I felt the urge. I do think my porn addiction caused me to miss out on connecting with women and lead me to have the unhealthy belief that paying for sex was the only way I would get to experience it. I can't afford to see escorts regularly and the legal and STD risks are very real, not to mention the moral conflict of being against human trafficking yet potentially supporting it at the same time. And I worry about how future partners will respond if (when?) they find out about my past. At least past mistakes are forgivable, and the more time that passes the less of an issue it may be. I still struggle to forgive myself, but it's a lot easier to do the longer I abstain from it.
    There is one site that still hits me like a drug, and unfortunately I still regularly use it. I don't know if I should name it because I don't want to encourage other people to go down the same rabbit hole, but it's a cam site. What makes this site different is that it feels very personal, all the camgirls do one on one video chats with you, and I keep in touch with the same girls for years even. I am spending a considerable amount of money to talk to these women who are in other countries and MO'ing with them and for what? Spending money that I worked hard for, that I can't afford to waste, to have fun with women who aren't really my friends, who want nothing more than to please me so I will keep giving them money. It's basically virtual prostitution but it's really hard to quit because it's cheap and easy. In just a few minutes and $5 I can usually have a session with someone, but I often spend hours waiting for my 'friends' to be online. $5 here and there adds up, especially since I don't have a very high paying job and that $5 often turns into $10, $15, $25. I often spend over $100 in a month just for video calls. I'm not making ends meet financially, work and hobbies suffer to this addiction, and I constantly swear off of it only to be back a week or two later. Every time I go on the site I feel a drop in my energy and mental health, and it makes me look at women differently, more lustfully, I don't like it, and neither do they. I really really want to be done, to only pursue healthy relationships with women, to finally be successful financially, have good mental health, good friends, hobbies, a future. I was clean from the site for a week and towards the end of the weekend I felt my energy coming back, the real me who is strong, confident, kind hearted, and happy. The me that lights up a room, that people want to be around, who helps without needing anything in return. That's me. But still I get bored or frustrated and depressed and throw all my money and energy at this stupid website, extinguish all these good qualities, and go back to being the sad little boy depressed in his room, unable to handle responsibility, taking instead of giving, talking to his online girlfriend and hiding from the world. I worry that the footage of me masturbating with my face in full view could get out someday. It's not that likely and I'm not famous, but there's really nothing I can do about that except hope it doesn't come back to haunt me in the future. It probably won't, but it could. I made a goal to stay off the site for the month of September, and I already failed, but it's not too late to get the old me back. I'll try to update this at least once a week.
     
  2. Life_of_Socrates_777

    Life_of_Socrates_777 Fapstronaut

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    Your post reminds of stories that I hear in AA. The crazy thing about addiction is that we say we are done and done and done, every time, until we're not anymore. It sucks. The other thing is that people can look at us and say, "This guy is losing his job, he's losing his life's savings, he's losing his brain, he's losing his liver, his daughter, his wife; why would he keep choosing the drug over these things?" And the answer is because an addict doesn't have a choice. Your brain is holding your power of choice in bondage. It's a disease, you have to treat it like one. It is possible to heal and move beyond it (no doubt about it) I see it happen all the time, and it always inspiring when people get their jobs back, their families back, etc. There are awesome success stories, and you always have the chance to be one of them. Are you able save that $100/mo for professional counseling rather than self-abuse? Can you make it to an SAA meeting in your area?
     
  3. It's possible to get away from it, but it requires commitment. I was in much deeper than you because I was addicted to one camera model who has since disappeared.

    Don't let it get that serious. Choose to do something different.
     
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  4. BananaBread900

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    Having a rough time with this. I decided to log in to delete my account but ended up relapsing. Part of me wants to keep it as an option even though it's always been detrimental.
    I've been falling behind in every aspect of my life because of this. There is a SAA meeting I could go to but I'd be extremely embarassed, it seems impossible. I've had mixed results with therapy in the past but when I am free of porn/masturbation/camgirls my life gets better on its own. I do think this addiction is just a symptom of me avoiding uncomfortable feelings and situations in my life. It's hard to 'embrace the suck" when comfort is instantly available.
    I'm not giving up, I'm optimistic about my situation still.
     
  5. BananaBread900

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    Yes there are a few models that I consider friends and I don't want to delete my account there because I would miss them. Makes it really difficult to walk away from.
     
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  6. sheldonmoon69

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    Thank you for expressing this. It's really helpful to me as I begin to evaluate my own challenges.
     
  7. Life_of_Socrates_777

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    "How" Honest, Open, and Willing. Someone with addiction has got to want to get better. The desperation gets so bad that they don't care how embarrassing their story is. It doesn't sound like you're sick and tired of being sick and tired. It sounds like you are "managing" being sick and tired. Even from a logical point of view, the math makes sense. I had a friend who was a major cokehead, who spent hundreds of dollars a week on cocaine. If he can afford $500 for coke, he can afford $500 for mental health counseling. Imagine the investment. If you got mixed results, then keep trying, why are you quitting? Math and money aside, it's just gonna get worse. Do you think addiction cares about your optimism? It is like gangrene or a parasite, it will eat away at your creative powers and it will destroy your brain. Are you science-minded? Have you seen the holes in your brain? Chemicals in your brain are traveling from lobe to lobe, convincing you that you need to do XYZ in order to survive. Personally, my path toward sobriety (sexual and otherwise) accelerated when I learned that my behavior was largely a result of physics, that maybe I wasn't a piece of shit, that I could hack my own nervous system, to be able to 'choose' what I would do.
     
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  8. Life_of_Socrates_777

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    Also, bringing back memories of the strip club... another $20 for another private dance, per song, "just one more." Thousands of dollars down the toilet.
     
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  9. Mob Barley

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    This is a very very important part to quitting using the cam sites. I've been using them off and on since I was 20 and this June I decided I had enough of it. At least the paying part of it. The cam girls dont really give a fuck about you& its a complete waste of money. Like you, I would also spend $100 sometimes but it wouldnt have that big an impact on my finances. In the beginning I was obsessed with 1 cam girl from the phillipines- even sent her money for a phone so we could video chat when she wasnt working. Very dumb lol. Thankfully these last couples years I've been doing a lot better getting dates, the in person affection is much more satisfying even if things go bad in the end.

    Realize you're hurting yourself by continuing the habit of paying for fake attention& cheap pleasure. Its very addictive I know but you must overcome as if your life depended on it, because it does!
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2023
  10. BananaBread900

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    I relapsed, but I realized something: My need to use camgirls is created by my use of camgirls. I'm lonely and depressed because I use camgirls, so to remedy that, I use camgirls. On top of that, I am a 'regular' and feel like I can't just cut off communication with these girls who I am usually in touch with at least once a week. I'm sure most of them just see me as a customer, and aren't going to be terribly upset when I cut off contact. I'm kind of mad at myself that I let it get this far, this addiction is ruining my relationships with women and stopping me from achieving my goals.
     
  11. Mob Barley

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    Tell them you're going to delete your acct and see how they respond! If you really want to keep in touch with them add them on skype or something like that.
     
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  12. GeorgeJetson

    GeorgeJetson Fapstronaut

    @BananaBread900 - your story is all too familiar brother. My addiction is very similar as I became obsessed with MO via cam chats. I'm married with children and it became so incredibly distracting...it was like I was in my own world and not fully present with my family. It's a terrible feeling. My addiction evolved to massage parlors and escorts eventually and that's when the big money started to be spent. The guilt and sadness I've experienced because of this addiction is hard to describe to an average person. However, people in this community can understand and relate.

    I think you're taking the right steps at acknowledging your addiction. As others have said, attending a 12 step program and getting additional therapy could potentially enhance your likelihood at success...but it all starts with us. We have to be willing and ready. That's the debacle. That's what I grapple with day in and day out.
     
  13. BananaBread900

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    Somehow I overcame some urges last weekend. I logged into my old account but there was a problem with my credit card. I could have used another card but I didn’t want to. I keep thinking about how much time and money I’ve wasted on this. I feel like I’m racing to make up for lost time. Knowing how much I can accomplish with a clear head, when I’m chasing my dreams and not waiting for my next cam session, I can only imagine where I would be in life now if I hadn’t fallen into this addiction. I have been busy following one dream of mine, engine swapping a car. Technically I’m putting the same engine back in it but I am replacing the automatic with a manual transmission. What I like about mechanical work is you can’t bullshit through it. You can’t be drunk, or high, or lustful, or even angry and expect good results. It’s a fact that if I go back to cam girls the car will stay on jack stands all winter and into spring until I get out and work on it.
    I do keep in touch with one of the girls I used to cam with but I don’t message her very often because then it makes me think of going back to my old habits. I really want to put all this in the past but that takes time.
     
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  14. GeorgeJetson

    GeorgeJetson Fapstronaut

    Great analogy with the mechanical stuff. I've struggled with this addiction for 30+ years and if there's only one thing I've learned is that it requires complete surrender and action. I can talk the talk all I want but if I'm not implementing a recovery program in my life, I am certain to fail. My current recovery program consists of prayer/meditation, a 12 step group with sponsor and sponsees, working the 12 steps, regularly contributing to the NoFap community, accountability partners, daily exercise, and eating healthy. I could be leaving out a few things, but this is the bulk of it. When I begin to neglect that stuff, I become further and further away from my recovery program and closer and closer to relapse.

    This addiction is fierce. I can 100% relate to the emotional defeat and feelings you've expressed, but without absolute surrender to your addiction and taking action (working a program of recovery), results will likely be nill.

    Thank you so much for your transparency. Reach out to me anytime and keep us posted on how things are going.
     
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  15. I recommend that you break this link. Replace your email with a random throw-away account. Burn your ability to reach the site. Make her double-plus-unreachable.

    My favorite camera model disconnected from the web in February. Her absence has allowed me to heal. At least for now.

    Peace!
     
  16. BananaBread900

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    It seems keeping in touch with her has only led to me wanting to go back to the site. I really struggled with urges today since I don't like to do any work on Sundays but I was able to get out of the house for a bit and that helped.
     
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  17. BananaBread900

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    Sorry I didn’t get to update earlier, had a bit of a relapse a while back. I’ve been keeping busy and that’s helped a lot. It feels like a normal thing for me to need to get on a cam site, but I don’t think I actually need it. It’s really hard for me to block people from my life, but the less I time I spend logged into the cam site and messaging the girls, the more I feel like I can go without them. One thing that works is putting off urges until after I get my work done, then after that I find that the urge is weaker and I don’t have to give in to it. Of course I fear that I will run out of things to do, but then there’s social events and hobbies, so maybe I can keep this going.
     
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  18. Onuphrios

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    Dear Brother,

    It seems to me you still struggle with sex addiction. You just escalated from Porn to cam sites/prostitution. It is the same old addiction, just another way of acting it out. To tell you the truth: Porn ist not the problem, Escorts are not your problem, and also camsites are not your problem. The problem is that you learned a very unhealthy way of dealing with your sexuality and therrefore you have an unhealthy relationship with porn/camsites/prostitution.
    You will have to fix this foremost, otherwise I assure you that there will be another "last site to quit" or another form of escalation or transfer afterwards.
     
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  19. BananaBread900

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    This is really difficult. I’ve been out of work for a while, I took the time to focus on some personal projects which was great but I missed out on some job opportunities and now I feel disconnected from the professional world and lost without a purpose. I know that using cam girls is not the right thing for me to be doing but I don’t see a lot of positive outcomes from doing anything else. I’ve been through this before and eventually got out of it but I’m not having a lot of fun right now. Whether or not I relapse I’m confident that I’ll eventually get through this.
     
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  20. GrittyRunning

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    Man, the being a Paypig thing is just unreal.
     

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