Need some Feminist Feedback - Help with mansplaining

You didn't get my point at all, but that's fine. Maybe the girl told OP off because she's an ass? Because she had a bad day and wanted to vent on him? Of course that's not proven but I really dislike one-sided thinking.

 

It's fine that you have a different opinion and I think it's good that you are engaged in doing something good for your loved ones.

Even if you don't feel the same way I do take heed. Once you are into feminism it will very likely become a social-justice-downward-spiral.

The people, especially women, I know who have turned away from feminism are not few in number. Because it made them spiteful and depressive. Because you are fighting an enemy you can't win against - a non existent one.

There are differences, for sure. But many are due to our physiological nature, such as bodystrenght. Emotional structure and even major differences in the brains - for example women's left and right brainside are better connected, women have a bigger language center and men are better at visualizing and geometry - IN general.

Let's take, for example, the wage gap. Which after years and years of lying on the feminist side has been adjusted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

Feminists across the world have blatantly lied and men who refused to believe their lies were labeled 'assholes' 'misogynists' and even worse things. All in the name of justice.

No murderer tells himself 'I will go do something bad today and kill someone'
In the murderers mind, he is doing something good.
Look at terrorists, even they believe they are doing the work of their god - something good in their eyes.

Now, I am not saying that feminists are murderers, not at all.
But what I know for sure is that in the subjective perspective - emotional - they are doing something good and just.
And that's enough. Most don't care for hard facts, they don't care for reality at all. They see what they want to see.
Of course this is no absolute, there are no absolutes. There are always people who can keep the overcview and stay grounded.
A few feminists will do good work for both men and women, but I fear the majority is not.

Now, I don't mean to convert you or anything, I just truly wish that you will not fall down a pit. But I am sure you have the right stuff to deal with that situation.

The only thing I can say and pray: when it comes to feminism: check the facts. make a reality check, look at the other side of the coin, keep the overview and facts over emotions.

Good luck bro!

PS: About the boob stuff: by that logic I could also go out in my adam-suit and let my wiener wave in the wind.
There simply is a majority that decides and just because a few individuals feel otherwise, doen't give them the right to force their way of lives and views on everyone. In rome, do as the romans do. Thousands of years old, not for nothing.

 

I get your point just fine, I would just like you to understand the context of my answer and in fact, the thread. The OP asked in what way could what he had said been taken as "mansplaining." I gave a possible theory. If you think the woman overreacted or whatever, fine, but the
"women being at fault or deserving it or whatever" was not the point. When it comes to mansplaining, that is never the point. Mansplaining is good intention (or maybe not) of men gone awry. It often has to do with men underestimating the comprehension or intelligence of women. I'm not here to debate whether or not OP is wrong or right, just answering his question. Thanks.

 

Lastly, about Free the Nipple: "Well, I should be able to show off my penis" is SUCH a stupid counter.
Free the nipple is the challenging of why the female nipple and not the male nipple is censored. Men get away with taking off their shirt in public, women would not (even though it is legal in some places - outside America obviously and I believe in NY) Even in movies/television, "nudity" will be applied to just women chests. Same with social media.
Freeing the Nipple is about desexualizing the woman body. Why are women shamed into covering themselves while they breastfeed? Because women boobs are our hypersexualized! Feeding your child shouldn't be seen as perverse and yet, it is. A breast SHOULD be a non-sexual organ FIRST.
Vaginas and penises are genitals and they only serve one purpose - sex. Neither of those are OK to show in public. It isn't Free the Genitalia. BOTH sexes have nipples, only one sex can display theirs freely if they choose. Hence the movement. So, now you have no excuse to EVER use that as a counter again. Any other male tries to - you mansplain/womensplain to them all you need to because it is dumb as shit. Pleasure as always.

 

Go to 1.30 for a definition of "mansplaining"

 

Ironically when I was teenager women were always trying to get guys to masturbate. They not only knew all the benefits, but it was necessary to prevent rape.

 

Sorry, your opinion doesn't overwrite reality. I mean how childish can I get. Men don't decide to sexualize breasts. Nature did that for them.

It feels like kindergarden where a brother has a different toy and the sister runs to their parents and starts raging why she doesn't have the same toy. Men don't feel comfortable with women showing their boobs in public, simple as that. They swing left and right and possibly could distress little children.

and about the 'tv series' --> sex sells. Also, a woman's nipples can be stimulated in a sexual sense, while most often a man's can not be. That's why they are secondary sexual organs.

 

I'm really done arguing with you. Nipple clamps are useable for men and women. There ya go. Anything can be made sexual and everyone is different. Not every woman can be stimulated by penetration even though that's what we've been taught to believe. So your nipple factoid falls into opinion as well.
And yes, women's fatty tissue has always been subconsciously alluring because it signals fertility. But culturally, boobs have been fetisized. You don't need boobs to have sex, you don't need to stimulate nipples to have sex. Remember biologically we just care about continuing the species -- ejaculate sperm into vagina, boom done. Anything else is recreational and learned. They don't talk about nipple stimulation in health class. I wonder where it came from? Could it be from porn? Why, I think it could be! Porn influencing our ideas of sex. Wow. What a discovery.

 

Wow thanks for this video. Now I'm 100% certain I don't want anything to do with America and any Germanic speaking nations. So much crazy. Terrible culture. Now I'm proud to be from Eastern Europe. All this feminist/gender talk did was first make me self-hating, but now when I hear some talking gender issues and feminism in real life I ignore them and say "Look, I have no time for that!". A Western white female is much more privileged for being Western born and white than I am as a white male from Eastern Europe. And the way Western women treat Indians is like they're their slaves. Dutch people treat Eastern Euros like crap.

If SJW are race blind why aren't they gender blind??? But it's nothing to do with pronouns. In French person is female even when used for a guy and homme (man) is male even when used in general and people don't do much drama about it. You Anglo Saxons and Germanic people are weird. You societies are toxic, over dramatic and stir even more gender hatred and division. That's why any self respecting E.E. guy gets a woman from E.Europe and avoids Western Europe like the plague. Why is gender blind not a thing yet for feminists, save for personal pronouns? Counting how many female CEOs are there seems sexist by their definitions, no. And they avoid the pink elephant called feminizations of the teaching profession and Art and Social Sciences degrees. It seems that reverse sexism is a OK with them. It's only bad when there are more guys in some profession but the opposite is OK. Well fyi, even if you're female, you're more privileged for being born Western European or American than a guy from Eastern Europe is. BTW, Polish people and the likes are those who do your dirty business - those jobs a White western person would never do.

Maybe I should write a tell-all book on the xenophobia experienced in the oh so liberal Netherlands. I'm very good with social cues. The reason why I haven't done this is I prefer to let go unlike feminazis that get irked by Tom Hanks manspreading in anvalmost EMPTY train! I think women like that have really poor self esteem and they do things like that to make men angry. Totally pathetic. That's why I avoid feminists like the plague. They're the same like religious bible trumpets.

 

Well, I live in the heart of Europe and it isn't even half as bad as you make it out to be. Maybe you just had experiences with the wrong people.

 

Isn't the heart of Europe Central Europe? Which is nowhere near as feminazi as the West and more equal. I mean the Western countries like the Netherlands have gone into a matriarchy leves of feminism. Complaining of manspreading and malesplaining and wanting to ban urinals, because "men have to pee sitting in the name of equality" (in Sweden I think) doesn't really benefit anyone and creates division and even more hatred between the genders.

It's funny how feminists say all women are individuals and not the same, yet create sexist terms for men like manspreading and mansplaining. So apparently men are not individuals and a woman has never explained something to a male or to a female like they're stupid? Come on now! Women need to look beyond gender, I think they let their vaginas to dictate their self worth. Maybe he mansplained it not because you're a female, but you just look clueless/anxious with your expression? Many women (and some guys, too) have body language that says "I'm not comfortable", which some peope take as "I am clueless". At the same time why don't feminists complain of the preferable treatment women get, i.e. a woman steals money from a street beggar and people look but no one says anything, they let her go. Yet, when the guy did it, everyone shouted at him and people even got physical. That was filmed in some American city, look up the video online.

In my country there are less guys manspreading too much than women with huge bags taking the seat next to them, yet we let them live without shaming them on the Internet. BTW, photographing anyone even in public and shaming them and calling them names online is a sign of lack of any empathy and is offensive. If I don't want my photo to be put on the Internet, you have no right to put it there.

If you want men to recognise you for your individual worth, stop and realize that men are individuals too. We don't exist as some sort of exclusive 'Man Club'. Even men of power are individuals and have to fend for themselves, and us ordinary guys even more so.

Hear this: I was abused and shamed for being an Eastern European in the Netherlands. I was called all kind of names and people will roll eyes when I say where I am from. They would push me physically to make me fall and appear clumsy, etc. which is physical abuse. And females would put me down all the time and womansplain things to me there. Glad I left my job there and not going back to that cesspool. But except here you don't see me posting articles and publishing books about the Nazi-like treatment I got in the low lands and how Dutch women are rude, bossy and obnoxious and Dutch guys are passive, compliant and look sad/depressed. Sure there were exceptions, but in general things were terrible there Don't get me wrong, the Balkans and Eastern Europe have the opposite problems of abusive husbands and prissy/compliant wives that's only role is to look good and clean the house lol. I think Central Europe and France are more moderate/equal when it comes to gender issues.

 

I view your entire 1st post as mansplaining.. I always defined it as rambling on and on about something that could be stated in a few short sentences.. giving examples and back up data, thus over stating the obviose is mansplaining.. the word itself has the explaining part of it.. so over explaining and going on and on is a trait men do even to other men. Its not just to women... most of your posts i got too lazy to read and skimmed as i could not be bothered.. i guess another word for it is Long Winded.

 

Sure, but women do something similar with emotional talk which is just as annoying. They pretend to care about the emotions of others, but being highly intuitive, I sense most of them are faking it.

Cattyness and backstabbing is also more common with females (and gay males) than with cis men. Having adrenal exhaustion, I've noticed that females cause more drama with their behavior usually, which eventually wears you off and is what makes for toxic working environments. Men need to stop explaining and women need to calm down, stop being passive-agressive and stop causing drama.

So both men and women do annoying things, but it seems like women are more likely to hold grudges. And of course, they in general are more likely to make a fuss about little things and cause drama. On the other hand females are less like pigs when using public restroom facilities lol.

 

Leave it behind bro. It will only hurt you. Don't let negativity in your life. The past is gone.