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Need advice to see PM will work in my issue

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Rehab101, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Rehab101

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    Hi,

    New to this forum because I really want to do better with my girl friend. I am 29 and I started dating my gf when I was late 25. I never had a serious relationship before and she was my first ever. She was also the one I first and ever had sex with.

    I am being honest here. To me, my gf attraction is a 7 out of 10. She is pretty but not exactly my type. Whenever I pass by a hot girl or find a hot girl in any sort of event, I can't help but keep staring at them and have dirty thoughts. I also would think I wish my gf is more attractive and have certain looks that I would want (rounder boobs, smaller chin, etc...). I don't know why I am so shallow and superficial. I want to stay with my gf but the thought of not having any other sexual counter with other women made me feel like i am missing out. Just this thought is giving me anxiety in a somewhat regular basis because I feel like I am trapped. My curiosity and porn watching are killing me.

    Perhaps my history of pmo did some major damage to me. At a very young age that I don't even remember, I developed a method to MO before I even hit puberty (this is disgusting I know). Around high school, I started PMO. The thing made me objectify women the most is probably hentai (japanese cartoon porn) and rape fantasy stuff. Hentai is the worst because they can make any perfect woman to suit your taste and they have like 10 times more genre than regular porn. The way I watch porn is I will skip to only parts I like and continue to process until I O. I do this in average 4 times a week.

    Anyway my gf is very loving and very kind. Yea sometime we fight and stuff, but she loves me a lot and I wish I can do the same for her. The thing is that my gut feeling doesn't think she is attractive sometimes (by noticing some trivial body traits) and I always and always dream about what its like to have a harem just to please my sexual pleasure. I got hard wired to think every hot women to my taste have a different flavors. I think that hotter the women is the better my orgasm will be. Lately my addiction is Russian porn because I think they have very hot body. This actually makes things worse and make me even more shallow. I felt like my pmo orgasm is a lot better than sex with my gf. Also most times I cannot orgasm with gf unless she gives me a hand job.

    I got derailed and described a little bit too much of my sick mind. Anyway, my question is, if I attempt to abstain away from porn watching and self masturbation, will I recover and focus more on my gf? Will I notice other hot women less in my daily life and not fantasizing/ lusting for them. May I still have sex with my gf (handjob or no)? Or should I seriously do PMO reboot? I tried one time and I can only last no longer than 7 days.. Also this is really scary because I don't know how this will change me. I really hope this will make my focus more on my gf and be a better bf.

    TL/ DR: Been PMO around 4 times a week since high school. Will PM reboot help me focus and be attracted to my gf more?
     
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  2. Numb

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    My suggestion? Quit P and M. Looks matter very little, it is just something pretty to look at. In a long term relationship it is personality and connection that matter. You really need to stop comparing your gf to other women if you want to be happy. Nobody can be perfect and if you keep comparing her to others you are hurting both of you and you will end up tearing her self esteem into nothing. Porn has warped your mind into what beauty is and what it should be. Looks also won't make the sex better. The hottest person in the world could be horrible in bed. I'll be honest here. When I met my bf his appearance didn't match my ideal. But we got along well and had a lot in common. I find him very sexy, it is his kindness and our love. Who he is, is very attractive. I would never trade that in for someone who 'is a 10'(sorry, I really hate that kind thing, rating people on looks. It is so shallow. People are more than just appearance)
    PM is also likely the reason for your difficulty in O with your gf. You've trained yourself to O with a hand, not with real sex. My bf suffers from DE and had a very hard time O with sex. It is getting better with time and NO p or m at all. He says it is better too. If he can not finish we just try again later.
     
  3. Ocean_93

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    I am quite new to this so my answer might not help.
    But my point of view changed when i saw a film about Pornstars at work and how they live and look in real life.
    To be honest after that i watched a lot af amateur porn and it took a lot of time till now.
    But trust me a real girl that loves you and cares about you is always way hotter than all the girls doing porn.
    And to look at other girls and thinking about dirty stuff is quite normal i guess.
     
  4. Numb

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    I'm not sure it's 'normal'. Maybe for a single guy or a PA. A lot of the recovering PA here do not let themselves do these things. I don't think it is healthy to lust after other people while you are in a serious relationship.
     
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  5. Ocean_93

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    I think i understood it wrong. To look at a girl or woman who is atractive to you is not wrong in my opinion. The thing is how extrem your thoughts are. If it is just a "she looks hot" i guess it is not a big deal. To assosiate a porn scene or stuff like that is wrong that is right. And if you see a girl and you can not think of anything else like sex or porn is an issue I don't have but if that is the point i guess it is a hugh issue wich I hope will be better after avoiding porn and masturbation.
     
  6. Hello!

    It's nice you're thinking about getting clean - it really helps not only with sex, but with other parts of relationship and life in general. Porn is such an energy sucker!

    If you would be with the hottest girl imaginable you would still look around and have similar problems - that's just our stupid mind, always comparing, always unhappy. That is not good nor wise way to go man.

    Take care and stay strong!
     
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  7. Tannhauser

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    Welcome! Trust me, this will be difficult, but it will be worth it.
     
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  8. GG2002

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    Hello. I’m female and a bit older than you, my ex had PIED but I’ve also dated a lot and remember your age and my first love.

    First it truly makes me sad that you discovered porn so young. Because you have never known a relationship porn or pmo free. Your tastes and desires have developed based on porn. Many men who are pmo addicts find their sexual tastes are actually very different than they thought they were. Porn shapes your mind and the younger you start the worse it is. For this reason alone you need to stop. Not for your relationship not for your gf but for you. You are still going. You have a great life ahead of you. Kick this now or read about how the addicts oh here much older than you have had their lives ruined and their spouses by porn.

    Next pmo addiction is not about sex or attraction. It’s about a dopamine high just like other drugs. Just replace it with say cocaine or oxy. Think about this next time you have the urge to pmo. Are you physically stimulated. Before you turn on the porn is your body physically stimulated? Or rather are you sad, bored, anxious, depressed, or just looking to feel better. Men today MO 50% more than they did before online porn. People pmo for the same reasons they use drugs. Underlying mental illness, lack of coping mechanisms, low self esteem, abuse etc. it feel the same role. And just like drugs you have to keep increasing the dose. So you are always going to be looking for a prettier girl, a better body, more extreme things. You could have the perfect woman that you created to a T and you would bore with her. Looking at other attractive people is normal we all do it. But your body is looking for that dopamine hit and that’s why you do it more. Yes studies show that men who view porn cheat more but porn addicts do to up the ante.

    Third you do not mention how your sex life is with your gf. Do you have ED does she enjoy it? Do you care if she enjoys it? If you don’t have PIED now you likeliy will give it time.

    If you want to quit and stay in the relationship then you need to be 100 percent open and honest and ask for her help. You will not succeed if you don’t. Never seen a guy on here who has. Sex? That’s individual to every addict. Some addicts find it causes relapse. If that’s you do hard mode. Or if you have it make her your only source of O don’t use your hand at all even in sex. She may leave you if you tell her but give her that right to leave. For your own recovery you need honesty. And she likely already feels you are not attracted to her. Reverse what you are saying and see how you would feel if she said it about you? “ I wish he had bigger muscles, was taller, had better hair. He’s not my type. I don’t like the shape of his butt. I am constantly looking at other men wanting to have sex with them.” How do you feel?

    The reality here is this. You are young, you have only been in one relationship. Is it normal to wonder what’s out there? Yep. Is it normal to wonder what sex with another partner would be like? Absolutely. In your case does that mean you are not supposed to be with your gf or rather is it a result of your pmo? That I don’t know no one can until you stop pmo and for life.
     
  9. Rehab101

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    Thank you. What you said to me is something similar my gf had said. I guess I really just want to hear from a 3rd person point of view. I am going to try hard this time and really want to see how this will change me. Hopefully I will care about my gf more. I am trying to stop clicking hot girl images in internet. Especially when I am bored, I just like to look at sexy images or porn. Right now, I am a day 5...got sex on 3rd day. it is especially hard the day or 2 after sex because that means i want something even more stimulation from source other than my gf. Thank you for your reply.
     
  10. Rehab101

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    What always stuck in my mind is that I feel more arousing from looking at some other girls because my stupid personal logic. The hotter I think the woman is the better my sex or orgasm will be. i catch myself staring at some pretty girls too long sometimes and the thought cannot get out of my mind. My stupid mind always compare others with my gf.

    You are right and being exposed to sexual content really wrapped my mind. I always look at women that are attractive to me as sexual objects. I feel higher dopamine rush when I think of women only to try to provide my sexual pleasure (eg rape fantasy and pervert japanese porn). Sometimes my gf call me disgusting for liking those genre of porn and I don't know why I am into that kind of things. The only explanation I think is because I treat woman as sex object. I know its wrong and I want to get it out of my system.

    My sex life with my gf is good sometimes and so-so sometimes. I don't have I have ED but I think my erection is not as good compare to 7~ years ago. I usually can only orgasm with her giving me a hand job ( not my hand) as sometime I get tired doing it the normal way or I don't feel much after awhile. The weird thing is that I need it to be certain angle otherwise I don't feel much. I have not once made her orgasm the regular way. I have to give her oral in order to make her orgasm. I feel bad about that but she claimed she likes having sex with me regardless. I do get a good sensation down there right I can sense her feeling good from my oral sometimes.

    My gf is a sweet and loving girl. If i can stop being shallow, I can see me marrying her.

    Right now. I am PM free for 5 days.

    Thank you for your advice.
     
  11. kameelteen

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    I dont think that's your personal logic, i think that's P's personal logic.
     
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  12. Rehab101

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    Relapsed after 21 days. Was not feeling too good about my so randonly then I was craving for other hot female....I lost myself after seeing some YouTube video that was not even suppose to be sexual (well she showed some cleavage)

    Well it's like there is a demon trytng to bring me down. I'm ready to retry this again but my gf was very bummed out. I just want to know how to create feelings to care for her more but I just don't feel anything. Sigh...
     

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