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Morning after sex .. chase effect

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by jimparker, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. jimparker

    jimparker Fapstronaut

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    Hi,
    I hope this is the most appropriate place for this?

    I'm married and still having sex but avoiding PM.

    I presume its normal to think more about sex, and therefore want to watch porn the morning after you had sex with your partner.

    I'm on day 7 now and I can't stop thinking about wanting to watch porn or have more sex or masturbate (after having sex last night). I really think its related more to having had sex than the 7 days but hard to tell for sure other than I realize I do usually feel like this when I wasn't avoiding PM too.

    Does this chase effect calm down over time when abstaining just from PM or will I always have this chase feeling? I just want to know what to expect.

    Thanks
     
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  2. For a full reboot I recommend abstaining from O for at least 90 days.
     
  3. jimparker

    jimparker Fapstronaut

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    Hi, thanks for your reply.

    By abstaining from O I presume you mean no sex too - ie your not suggesting I have sex but just dont O my self.

    I really don't see no O as an option for me and my marriage. I'm also not sure that I personally need to go to that level for my personal goals.

    I don't want to penalise my wife, who enjoys our sex too and doesn't have any desire or need to give it up.

    I am strong willed enough to just abstain from PM even if sex with O makes that harder, I'm just really interested in anyone's experience of doing the same - if things get easier or if there will always be the urge after sex with O.

    Thanks
     
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  4. Congrats on your journey so far!

    The decision to go totally PMO free is up to each couple for sure.

    @Mourde and I decided it wasn't going to work for us even though we gave it a decent try. I'm the one who had no will power on that...he's doing great. Mourde has been PM free for awhile now.

    I remember the day after we went for a short while of complete no PMO and he was the same as you feel now. Shaking bad, he actually called me because he was worried something was wrong. He said his whole body felt tingly.

    It's a lot easier now from what he tells me but the first few chasers are pretty rough to get over. Be strong.

    @Mourde I'm sure can add some more input and advice for you here too.

    Good luck on your journey!!
     
  5. Mourde

    Mourde Fapstronaut

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    Hello and congrats on your journey. As my wife mentioned, we both did the same journey you and your wife are on and it's normal to have urges after but you need to find a way to fight those urges cause just trying to ignore them isn't very helpful. I got a meditation app for my phone with short 3-10 minute meditations on it which I used when I felt those urges, I also take short cold showers in the morning and a little longer ones the morning after sex. Not saying they stopped the urges but they do help clear your mind and help you get out of the fog! As far as the meditation goes it's hard to learn how but the fact of trying and getting your mind to think of something else is very helpful! Make sure you set your goals and stay on your routine, there is a lot that is going to happen on your journey anything from the chaser effect to flatlining so it's always good to be prepared and you can do this just set your mind too it! Good luck and ask for help when needed!
     
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  6. No, mean what I wrote. Intimacy is more than just O. And your O is unsurprisingly wired to P and M.

    Is healing your brain and rebuilding dopamine receptors not your goal?

    If you end up heavily injured in a hospital bed for multiple months, you are not penalizing your wife either, you are just in need of recovery.

    From my own experience without removing O nothing actually happens in the dopamine department. You go half a year or so with cravings, relapse to P and that's it.
     
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  7. jimparker

    jimparker Fapstronaut

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    Thanks all for your advice and comments. All useful.

    wwtl, I feel I'm here fairly early in terms of level of my problem - or at least not so severe that I need a full reboot. Obviously I have no experience so I could be totally wrong, but I think for now I want to give this route a try first. I would say my PMO isn't totally compulsive - but I'm certainly (was) doing it to avoid doing other things and to make my self feel good.. anyway im rambling, I will keep your advice in mind though on my journey and come back to that advice if I need to.

    SOofanaddict and Mourde, thanks for your perspective and experience too. I did try listening to meditation music the end of last week for 45 mins and it did really help actually! I haven't ever been taught how to meditate but I have had a hypnosis meditative type tape (it was a long time ago when i was young - dont judge lol) that I kinda refer back to when I want to go into my own form of meditation - focusing on feeling heavy and relaxing etc etc which worked well for me. I must learn more about meditation I suppose.

    I read people saying about cold showers - just sounds like a punishment to me lol.. I love hot showers... I also used to (i mean up until a week ago!) have a habit of M in the shower very often. I guess with a cold shower thats less likely lol.

    Regarding the routine stuff too - I have read about the need to fill your time with a routine.. I'm just not good at that - so yet another thing to try to do. There is a lot of advice and its hard to change everything! i wouldn't know how to set a routine and I would be bad at following it.

    I must admit, often reading stuff it seems like basically I need to become a monk.

    I want to make some positive changes and I would love to feel better. I feel like Im taking a good step and im sure I need to make many more.

    Thanks again for the opinions
     
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  8. Acceptance is the first step to recovery. It's absolutely understandable, if you're not there yet, in my own case I needed five years to get it.

    I recently added contrast showers to my habits as well. They are beneficial.
     
  9. Married for 19 years. Been in active recovery the last six years. I never did a full reboot -- when I started my recovery years ago, I did not even know about such an option. Things may go more quickly if you go hard mode, although I do not know. But I can testify that it is not required to do so. Avoid P and M 100%, and take the time to get reacquainted with a normal and healthy sexual life with your wife. If you commit to these things, I think you will do just fine.

    If I can ever be of service to you directly, feel free to reach out any time. Wishing you the best on your recovery journey!
     
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  10. Mourde

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    Maybe I should have been a little clearer on the cold shower thing ,you dont just jump into a cold shower you can start it off warm and slowly turn it into cold for as long as you can stand it! It's worth the shot only if you want to! Good luck!
     
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  11. Faceplanter

    Faceplanter Fapstronaut

    It will calm down, although it takes a while and even then maybe it's not gone 100%. But, with PMO you have a lot of access and getting real sex can be a stimulant for thoughts that have led to PMO in the past. As you drop PMO and the regular access to easy O's, your brain isn't expecting to get an O every time you get or have gotten excited.

    I also found that getting an O before sex if possible helps too, then the real sexual time is where the chaser effect hits and I find after the second O there isn't much of a chaser effect, I'm good. I was similar with PMO.....2 O's if I had lots of opportunity....maybe a third but that was always lackluster.

    Alternatively, try and get some "help" the next day and that could replace the urge for PMO with the chaser effect and replace it with help from your wife.
     
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