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Is this healthy in recovery?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by TryingToHeal, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    Is it OK for my husband to be having thoughts and urges for me? He is almost 150 days PM free. He says he thinks about me and wants to be with me, thinks about things we have done, etc. I do not mind, but my concern is that it would lead him to want to M or look at P again. He says it does not make him want to do M or P at all, he doesn't have any urges for M or P, it just makes him want to be with me (that doesn't always mean sex, just like physically with me in the same space is what he means). I would think this is OK but I'm not sure about it with the PA/dopamine drip, etc. It isn't like something he is focused on all the time but like a few times a day he'll have the thoughts, not dwelling, just thinking about me in a sexual way. Just want to make sure it is healthy for him to be doing that in recovery.
     
  2. anewhope

    anewhope Fapstronaut

    This sounds a) normal b) understandable and c) highly desirable. Isn't this what a successful reboot looks like? Isn't this the end-state we are all trying to reach?

    ANH
     
  3. As humans we we are programmed to get that little
    dope drip when we have natural thoughts about love, sex, our loved ones. Porn addiction/sex addiction just capitalizes and hijacks this natural process.

    It’s good he’s having thoughts about you and good he isn’t getting urges to PMO. Sounds like his reboot is going well.
     
  4. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    I think as long as he isn't obsessing over you, or getting urges to M to you like he did to P (as in using you as a psub), the its perfectly fine.
    It would be the goal they are trying to reach. :)
     
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  5. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    As long as you aren't being your own Chaser. I'd say it's good
     
  6. WantsToBelieve

    WantsToBelieve Fapstronaut

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    While I do still have to just hope he is truthful about it not leading to temptation for P/M, I'm quite glad for you that you've come this far. This doesn't sound to me like it's a 'dopamine drip' response. Especially because you said sometimes it's just wanting to be in your presence, not just having sex - This sounds more like he has become more accustomed to the oxytocin (the "love hormone") being released in his brain when he is with you. Oxytocin can be released with sex as well as dopamine, and is said to enhance orgasm sensation and feelings of romantic attachment. I'd say he has reached the point where intimacy with you has lessened his need for dopamine.
     
  7. In my opinion your husband has reached the "rebooted" stage of his journey! Congratulations!
     
  8. I think it sounds great ;) if you’re what his mind is drifting towards that’s the goal! I don’t think desiring sex or thinking about is a bad thing..it’s in what context that matters! If your the context that’s a big win!

    You go sexy lady! :cool:
     
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  9. osmowife

    osmowife Fapstronaut

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    Exactly. In the end this is exactly what I am at least trying to reach. If it's what you want to I'm happy for you!
     
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  10. Broken81

    Broken81 Fapstronaut

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    I think if my husband said these things to me (and seemed to genuinely mean them) it would help to build up the confidence he chipped away at over the years. Just my humble opinion, but if I were you, I'd be doing a little happy dance! :)
     
  11. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    Thank you, I'm glad you think it is going well!


    No, I don't think it is obsession at all. No urges to M at all, he says. He says it is freeing that he doesn't feel the need to M. This is really weird for both of us, but he actually said he loves not Ming, not feeling like he has to like he did before.


    I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean causing the chaser effect? If so, I'm not sure. I mean he is satisfied with whatever it is we do, but of course he'd always like more. Not in like a has to have it way, but just in a wanting to connect way now and loving physical touch way. He is also fine if we don't.


    I think he is being truthful about no P and no M. I can tell in the way/time he Os that it is different than it has ever been before. And maybe TMI (does that even exist here?) but it is way harder than it has ever been, too. I usually can tell when he is lying as well. His whole attitude about it has changed. And yeah, he always wants to be around me. I mean he even wants to go grocery shopping together and run errands together, wait on me while I'm in the dressing room trying on clothes, etc., he didn't want to do mundane stuff like that before. That is interesting about the oxytocin, I never thought about that. I think what it is now is that he is realizing what it takes to have a true connection, and he wants more of that. The bonding (all the time, not just sex). And regarding sex, he wants real intimacy in sex, like staring into each others eyes type, not just an orgasm.

    That is awesome, I hope you are right.


    This is kind of how I was feeling about it. It doesn't seem bad since it is me and isn't like an obsessive all the time thing, but I just wanted to be sure. I'm all thrown off now it seems!


    Thank you! :emoji_blue_heart:

    Thank you. I am so happy with how far he has come, but I also am fearful to accept it. I'm scared of just when I accept it and move forward, it will happen again. I think he has changed, I'm just leery still. But it definitely has helped with the confidence. And he does seems to be genuine and mean everything.


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    Thank you everyone! :emoji_blue_heart: I wasn't really expecting the responses, but thank you, this is really helpful in putting things in perspective for me. I felt like this is where we should be, it *feels* like the right spot, but I just wasn't sure because I am all confused about how things should be because of the whole PA thing. He seems to genuinely mean what he says and I'm trying to just go with it and not question everything, but it is difficult!
     
  12. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    What is meant was, if you have sex and then 1-3 days later, instead of becoming aroused simultaneously, he's hypersexualizing the idea of being with you again.
    You are the trigger, in other words.
    I don't know how likely this is...
    Probably not very, however
    This is the only way I can see this as being negative
     
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