Is there a benefit to not PMO'ing after watching porn?

Well I guess every person is different, But for me at least indulging few things doesn't work in the long term. They eventually lead me to a full relapse. You recognized you have an addiction, right? don't you want to set yourself free? I think you will get the benefit of your body recovering, but what about your mind?

 

So sometimes I go all hardcore and watch porn for three hours and finish with O. Sometimes, I just watch YouTube for an hour, then go rub myself for a few seconds, but stop short of O.

Then I stand back and ask myself, "Were either of those activities healthy? Did simply holding back from O move me towards having a healthy mind and ultimately healthy relationship with a woman." No. Not one bit. It's all fake and all destructive. Don't let the idea that any amount of P, M or O is okay. Work to remove ALL of it from your life.

It all starts with the very first decision: When I want to begin edging, what do I do? Try it a little, or turn away from it right then and there?

 

I think I get what you're saying and I see your point about how if you wouldn't be successful, then maybe that thought in itself would be a deterrent.

You used the terms "fully indulge" and "fully relapsed" and I think that for me, that is where I draw the line for myself. "Fully" doesn't matter because "Any" isn't acceptable for my personal goals of recovery. If I indulge even the slightest, I consider that counter-productive and so I have to abstain from all of it. It's my opinion that doing so is the fastest (though most difficult) route to healing. Definitely set your own boundaries, but make them attainable.

I can edge - watch porn for hours - without ever touching myself or reaching orgasm. That's happened countless times when I've wanted to get that internal hit, but couldn't go further because others were nearby. I don't think one minute of those sessions was anything but damaging.

Hope you have a strong day today.

 

I was tempted every time. Was resisting the temptation beneficial? That's a good question and I was immediately going to say "Yes." But the more I think about it, the more I have to say "Yes and no."

Here's how it is for me: I'm trying to quit eating cake and eat more salad. (Yeah, I know.) Watching porn is bite 1, M is bite 2, O is the final bite. If every time I pick up the cake, I only take one bite and am able to dump the rest in the trash, is that a good thing? Yes and no. Yes because I didn't eat it all. But no because my ultimate goal was simply to stop eating cake and here I was doing it again. It's like an alcoholic saying he'll just have one sip and that's it. Great! He did it ten times in a row. But it's very likely that eventually, he'll give in. And when he does, he'll crash hard. What's more is the fact that he should never have ordered the drink in the first place if he really wants to quit. He should have ordered a ginger ale. But he's an addict. And a little fix is better than no fix.

Resistance does require awareness and effort and so even if I were still to take bite 1 and stop, I would give myself credit for that. Stopping short shows a level of discipline. But I would still have very mixed feelings when I closed my eyes at night, and I would have wished that I never had eaten any of it.

It has to be either cake or salad. And as much as I hate red onions, I'd rather be filling myself with what's good and natural.

Stay strong today.

 

It's complicated. I think it always boils down to what do you want? If, like me, you want to be rid of PIEDor Death Grip, so that you can perform properly with a woman, then any hand manipulation is going to compromise this. If you are single, and just want to MO healthily, then you have no option.

 

Dizzy Lotus: What i hear in your posts is the addict within you speaking. The addict is trying its best to keep his favorite drug. Maybe i can do P without MO? Maybe i can just watch soft P? Can i just do PM without O? Maybe i can do MO only before or after P etc.

You are addicted to p0rn. You want to recover? Quit watching p0rn of any kind, at any time. Any middle-ground is just the voice of the addiction trying to fool you.

 

Why masturbating?

Win stupid games win stupid prizes, you recover nothing in this way

 

Win stupid games win stupid prizes. Replacing one with another.

Sounds like a bad plan.

 

I am on day 38 or so with no O.

I went 25 days and then had O with my significant other. Since then, I have made it 13 days. I still count it as day 38.

Throughout this whole thing, I have looked at spicy accounts on instagram instead of hardcore P and I have been “edging”. Only every now and then at first, and not really bad.

Recently though, it has gotten worse. I have been PMing without O. I feel that if I keep up this way, I will fail soon.

I can firmly say, however, that retaining from having O really changes your life. I am more confident, easier going, can talk to people, make friends, have more ambition, more awareness, etc.

My point is, MO is what you should try to vet rid of. You sound like you are addicted to it. P0rn in ANY FORM AT ALL is damaging to you and your no MO streak.

Like I said, I am also dealing with p0rn addiction, though I have stopped MOing for the time being. The P will become to strong, and I will MO again, which in turn, will make it even more difficult to start again.

You must stop watching P.

You must stop M.

You must stop O.

It is the only way to not have any of them stick around, especially for people in our situation. PMO is a dead end game. There is nothing more to it.

 

Agreed. Edging is something that is really bad habit to get into. The form that modern P has shaped into + edging is what turns it into a truly drug like problem. I've had a very tough time with it, and I feel it's really done damage to my mind. The ultimate goal is to rid everything.

Going cold turkey. I can't speak from experience, as I am still at baby streaks, but as I've struggled with edging I've come to the opinion is that if I already broke into P, it's better to do the "cycle" quickly rather than to waste hours milking my mind's dopamine supply. Not often successful in making that choice, but when I do, I do feel it the better choice. I want to state that that is my opinion from my own experience.