I have asked Allah, Jesus, Jahve, Krishna and Buddha for Help

I’d say, that yes, you need to help yourself first…. And then as you begin to build momentum, you may start to “see” some of God’s workings…

The thing is, it seems to me that it is all very subtle… cannot be seen by the perception of science.

That’s how I see it… so yes, help yourself first, with whatever it is you need help with, do that. And then after, when you start to build momentum, you might be able to see more clearly

 

You can only depend on yourself. Stop having a helpless victim mentality. Control what you can and accept what you can’t. Life is not fair, it is what it is. If you can’t accept that then oh well, sucks for you.

 

You are misapplying your efforts and are fighting the battle on a wrong terrain. For starters, to see what you are asking for takes wisdom, and wisdom is the fruit of a practice. You do not have a practice which is why you bear no fruit. But to seek a proper practice and have the knowledge to aid you on the path is crucial, so that you dont fall into despair (which is your case.) When you have a proper path, even though you fail, you know you have a map; you know the way out. But a person with no proper practice regarding Ethics/virtue and dicilplinary rules and precepts has no map; there is no proper framework with which to combat carnal/sense desire. To this degree, existence is a slave to sensuality (the senses and sense objects.) You need to ask the write questions. Think and write them here. What questions should you be asking which the answers to would aid you on this path. Make no mistake, the path is sense restraint. Its founded on sense restraint. Its called developing the body, thats to say, your relationship to the body. Orthodox Christianity and Orthodox Buddhism (Theravada) have this same principle.

This is not so. Where do you get this from? Im curious. Could you explain your sources here?

Don't give up. Instruct yourself properly and you can get ahead. Youre gonna have to suffer a lot before you get any better. But you have to do it! You have to suffer. So if you need help knowing how to get over that initial withdraw and pain we can talk more later about that.

But you have to put in the work. The pain wont leave by itself. Only through your proper practice will you get anywhere. Only through the proper frame of reference. Right now, you should prioritize knowledge on how to do this, in combination with manly striving, effort, and determination regarding the endurance and will necessary to get over the initial hump/pain of sense restraint.

 

Hello Krillin, why do you still insist on asking for help from the gods? Its not to argue weather they exist or not but what great Buddha in the clouds can come down a liberate you from suffering. What Jesus is there to come a take your hand and walk you to the gates of heaven?

Its okay to take your healing by your own hands. Religious folk love to say that God created us in his image. But it's so obvious that we create God in our own image. Whatever suits us and how we want to live, that's what our God "wants for us" Pray for a little and go to church on Sundays and we start thinking that this will save us. I'm sorry, but this is brain washing at its finest.

Walk alone brother. This entire universe is rolling everlastingly in a state of truth. It is up to you to see what this truth is. No one can show you or take you there. Someone may only point the way. You don't need big and dramatic churches and temples. It's just you and the reality that is taking place within you. Know thyself.

 

To prey is to accept defeat

 

Why god? No one knows if he’s real or not. Those who say he exist or doesn’t exist are both full of shit. Truth is no one knows.

I’m saying to stop focusing on shit that you can’t control like religion and god because it’s pointless. Instead, you should focus on what you know and can control in life.

 

what exactly are you suffering from? Is it just because of PMO? Or do you actually have a serious illness?

And I understand about the suffering, it is very annoying and frustrating. I ask myself a lot, " why couldn't God just be cool and make paradise and let us relax in it?"

There is something in Catholic/Christian religion that talks about how suffering actually helps to perfect us. Idk if that is true or not or if the people who said that are just making things up as a way to cope with their own suffering. But maybe, suffering is somehow good for us?

 

If suffering is good for us, that's necessarily by the design of god, and not a feature inherent in suffering (that the goodness of suffering would independently of god seems a bit ridiculous). So either it's not true, or god wants us to suffer. Take your pick.

 

I mean, why all this theoretical talk of theology when the matter at hand is your own lack of virtue and goodness? You steer the conversation away from yourself as if to fool fellow posters from looking at you. Misdirection. You probably don't do it on purpose, but its evident.

 

Unfortunately this is the case for many people. Children do not yet understand the meaning of truth because of reliance on parents and just accept whatever they happen to be exposed to. I have been told tales of great pleasures after death for those who bow and worship him, out of greed I would accept such nonsense. I have also been told tales of eternal hell fire for those who do not accept the word of god, out of fear I would believe such a thing. Lucky I could see through the gaps as a child, I denied it from the start and as a result I was pushed and poked and beaten up for supposedly being a satanist by the very people who called themselves Christians. I'm so grateful for these experiences because they really made me understand the result of blind belief.

 

You need to fully believe in only 1 God . You are fully a Christian , and I am fully a Muslim , we are both going towards the top of mountain , just in 2 separated ways . If you mixing religions , going a little bit on this way , and a little bit on another way , you will lose yourself and you will not know where you are . You need to stick to 1 way

Prayer is not enough . I know a story about a guy since I was a child they taught me in school . He was in some hole , could get out , praying for water . And he died from dehydration . You cannot just pray and expect the results . You need to take action . Allah left water for him to drink , but he didn't stepped out to get it .

I prayed to God against lust . I cannot just sit here , playing video games all day , with all of this energy , and expect to not relapse . I need to act too , not to just pray .

I prayd against lust and all the fantasies I had I started finding gross . My mind has changed .

I hope this is helpful . What is your life situation ? What is torturing you ?

 

lemme know if they call a playa back

we all burning in these flames G

 

You should look up a man named Dr. Neil Anderson, he really opened my eyes and helped me grow in my faith. Jesus will reveal himself to you if you choose to seek him. The requirement for salvation is believing Jesus is the son of God and that he died, was buried, and rose again on the third day for our sins and to give us eternal life.

 

I've searched a long time in the past when I was seeking for answers.
I was depressed to hellish darkness, I was scared to death, I was enslaved by lust and I was 99,9% hopeless.

With that last 0.1% I started my journey along all kind of religions and "methods".
Until I finally saw why Jesus died on a cross.
There my eyes went open and I saw what I always missed and was looking for:
Unconditional love.
I had found what I was looking for.

 

You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Hebrews 11:6