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How to overcome the anger? (This is hindering me)

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Linerider, Mar 18, 2024.

  1. Linerider

    Linerider Fapstronaut

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    Hi,
    so I relapsed after 8 days albeit not to p. in that sense. The last couple days I was so irritable and felt anger.
    There were situations in my past where my naivity was taken advantage of, where I was lied to, betrayed etc. So in a way I consume in order to forget all of that I guess. When I'm sober everything that happened to me just floods my brain and I become angry. I'm a calm person with people but when I'm sober in my mind atleast it's just everything but calm. So in a way, looking back, no wonder that I relapsed. I was cursing under my breath all day lol although I'm not somone who curses really.
    I'm also angry bc I've tried everything. I'm living without a smartphone, I have set up good blockers on my pc, I gave away my tablet (that led to relapse before).. I do sports, go for a walk, listen to calming music, everything really.
    I have done so much research on this. On the addiction, on anger, etc. I know I have to forgive in order to move on. I try to. I listen to forgiveness affirmations. Nonetheless I'm practically never in the present moment even when I'm sober. It's just impossible. I do some exercise, for instance, do some squats, feel good while exercising, but it increases testosterone which makes me more angry afterwards. Cold showers aswell. Hiking, you name it, I'm doing it.
    What can I do?
    Is there anything I can take. I take supplements like taurin, theanine and stuff. but only temporary relief.
     
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  2. Fish oil can help, also basic mindfulness meditation will help you recognize those emotions when they arrise and will help you calmly dismiss them. Remember the hypofrontality aspect, your prefrontal cortex needs alot of time to heal so you can make smarter decisions in moments of temptation.
     
  3. tawwab1

    tawwab1 Fapstronaut

    I know what you mean. I used to have anger issues and deal with them the same way. I would just push them away or try to drown them to escape. But that's the wrong thing to do and there are much healthier ways to deal with it.

    Yeah, you won't make any progress until you deal with the anger.

    Hmm, sorry but it can't really be as simple as that. Some advice pushes people too quickly to forgive when they're not really ready for that. If it's something really traumatic then you might have to work through your backed up emotions. Or if a specific person is annoying you then you might need to deal with that person. Either face them or just get away from them. It's not always as easy as some people say. Maybe that's not what you meant but I see this kind of advice sometimes. If you try to forgive someone before you're really ready then you will just fill your heart with more rage.
     
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  4. Meshuga

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    Deescalate your body first. Take long, deep breaths. You can’t think when you’re angry, you can’t make good choices. Once you’re calmed down do not let your emotions run away with you again. You don’t achieve calm, check that off the list, and move on to dealing with the issue. You have to prioritize remaining calm while you deal with the issue.

    Think of it like a shaken up soda bottle. You tighten the lid, to keep it from spewing everywhere. You’re going to have to open it eventually, because drinking is the point, but you have to wait. Then, you might think you’ve waited long enough so you crack that lid again but nope. Be patient with your situation and be patient with yourself. Give yourself the time to calm, and maintain calm.

    When you can maintain calm, rationally sort through why you are angry, and even if you have a right to be angry. I’ve been in so much therapy, if I had a dollar for every time I heard “all feelings are valid” I could afford therapy, but I believe the truth is, some feelings aren’t. Sometimes we wrap ourselves up in self-righteousness and choose to be more outraged than we need to be, or is justified. And sometimes we are justified in being angry, but we can choose to let it go. Sometimes life isn’t fair, but sometimes we can take the hit and keep going. Not every battle is worth fighting. Not every hill is worth dying on. Sometimes you should put your foot down and stand up for your rights, and demand the respect you deserve, but sometimes it’s better to overlook the slight and choose the peaceful route. The difference between the two is what is going to result in more tranquility in the long term.

    When you choose to fight, do it with a clear head. Aim to resolve the situation without escalating. Use communication, describe your complaint and your expectations to the relevant party, and be prepared to listen to their rebuttal. Again, if you find yourself getting angry, feel the pressure building, take the time to calm and release the pressure so you can approach the problem rationally. Keep communicating, and that means listening as well as talking, until expectations are clear and a resolution is reached.

    This process will take a lot of practice, and it will not always go smoothly, but you will be happier in the long run if you execute it.
     
  5. HealingBodyandMind

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    I experience the same thing.. anger is what usually ends up driving me to relapse.. it’s just angry thoughts in my head, not expressed outwardly (usually)

    wish I could give some advice, I like the responses on here though.. perhaps meditation is something that I HAVE TO begin implementing.. it’s no longer an option, but has to be done for healing my thoughts
     
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  6. Linerider

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    Fish oil did not help me unfortunately. Meditation does not help me either to be honest.
    But you make a good point. I know that addiction like this leads to weakened prefrontal cortex. Maybe it's time for me to research where anger is "located" in the brain so to speak. Actually it's in the amygdala, right right. Emotional regulation that is. Maybe I can search for supplements for amygdala?! Also regarding meditation I have only recently realized that some of chanting meditation where I sing some holy sayings helps me better than silent meditation.
     
  7. Linerider

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    Have you experienced that too, I see.
    Yes, I think you are right, focusing on forgiveness before really aknowledging the wrong that was done, it will be a band aid solution only.
    I don't know, man.. it seems like nobody knows me i.e. the real me sometimes. And that can subconsciously make me think that the version that people know i.e the addicted version is the real me. I know that sobriety will make me see the myriad ways I have "destroyed" my life, will make me see how my life should be and how it is not.
     
  8. Linerider

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    Yeah man, I feel how this emotion can be the main driving force to addiction is often so underestimated. There are not so many posts about it.
     
  9. Linerider

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    Thank you a lot, man for taking the time to answer. And for being honest!
    That makes a lot of sense.
    Sometimes the people and the situations are not there though. For example childhood. Sometimes there are some greys in the situations as well i.e. not totally clear who is to blame 100%. Not clear if I had some blame in the situation too. And that can even complicate the healing process. But recently I found a thought that helped me in this regard.. If it is not clear 100% who is to blame in this situation, even after careful honest pondering, then why am I am even wasting my time thinking about that situation. That thought helped me with one situation, I'll try to apply it more often and to other situations that are bothering me aswell.
    I will take your advice with dealing with a person to heart. Absolutely! Thanks again!
     
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  10. tawwab1

    tawwab1 Fapstronaut

    Yeah man, I had a massive anger problem, but I didn't realize it, because my anger would get turned inward. So I would suddenly feel super tired, go silent and have weird body symptoms for days and days, and in the past this would usually result in compulsively looking at porn. Once I realized it was anger, it was like a light bulb went off, and I learned to deal with it in a healthy way. Part of the problem was that I was letting people in my inner circle who really didn't care much about my feelings. I guess I realized, if other people don't seem to care if I'm upset, then I might as well just deny the anger even exists. The human mind comes up with the weirdest ways of self-defense. I got away from those people and worked a lot on my inner child or subconscious "sleeping partner" with research and some therapy. Life is so much easier now, because if someone makes me angry, I just tell them, "Hey, when you said this it made me upset," and we deal with it like adults.

    I think you've got it flipped. Actually, the real you is the healthy one and the addiction is making you act in ways that are against your true self. At least, that's how I see it!
     
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  11. tawwab1

    tawwab1 Fapstronaut

    A wise man once said, anger is a traveling companion who you can't put in the trunk, and you can't let him drive either.
     
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  12. Linerider

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    That makes a lot of sense, bro. Letting some people go out of the inner circle who aren't really half as invested in the friendship as we are. Sometimes being on a good streak aswell can make one act impulsively sometimes, when it comes to talking that is. I remember a year or two ago where I was on almost 2 weeks and then hanged out with some people whom I hadn't seen in a while. I have some anger from that day, since some people acted dismissive. I did say something. But I could have spoken out and named the elephant in the room more clearly. I guess also I didn't want to ruin the mood for the day since many people were there aswell. But also, looking back, I was perhaps too talkative (bc I was feeling really good for once) and this person taught I was trying to impress him by that or something I don't know. But yeah, better to be a little silent with those who are known to underestimate people.
    Also I learned that anger comes after being depressed often. First the depression and being numb kind of state. Then emotions such as anger arise. But I'm hearing thats a good sign aswell in a way.
     
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