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  1. For Homeland!!

    For Homeland!! Fapstronaut

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    I am new here, sorry if I speak English bad. I fight for 7-14 days ,than I fall, and I never masturbated with porn materials, never. Any ideas??
     
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  2. Foxhole

    Foxhole Fapstronaut

    Hi. Welcome. Good to have you here. What is the bigest problem you need to help with?
     
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    For Homeland!! Fapstronaut

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    I fall when I can fight, I dont know why:(.i want to reach 21 days, this is my goal, but i am still losing... :/
     
  4. Foxhole

    Foxhole Fapstronaut

    Hi. 21 days may be good start, but i believe you can do more. Fapping is evil and you want to get out of your life for good.

    I know it may be hard, but sometimes its more about attitude and routines than willpower.
    - I think you might use an accountability partner (you can find one here: https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?forums/accountability-partners.7/) You can find one who can speak your language if you're lucky
    - Its also important to know why you want to quit and what makes you fail at this. Then you can stay focus on your aim and fight with your demons.
    - Acknowledge you quit for good - and its not scary - its amazing. I used to did it like "okay, i'll try to stop it at least for week" but day later a said to myself "man it was a horible day i need to relax (and i meant fap), i'll quit pmo tomorrow". A took every excuse. But when you decide you stop for good and not even consider relapse as an option, you'll be unstopable. So no conditions, no excuses. Stop now for good.
    - And remember - life without porn is great. Believe me. I used to think i'll have to live like a monk. Force myself to not masturbate, deny myself, be unhappy. But opposite is true. While you break this trap you won't miss fapping at all. You'll be more happy and confident. Yes there will be urges and temptations, but you can overcome them easily.

    Good luck with your journey and feel free to message me any time.
     
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    For Homeland!! Fapstronaut

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    Thanks man, that really helped me, you are AWESOME!!!
     
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  6. Foxhole

    Foxhole Fapstronaut

    :D thanks, just sharing the wisdom i got from here. Good luck on your journey and write me if you need anything.
     
  7. Hi. Welcome to forum!

    Make sure you create a personal journal thread in Reboot Logs section and blog there on a regular basis. As well as just generally be active participant in various forum discussions. I recommend this to everybody new here because it's the major thing that helped me when I was first starting. Just lurking on forums, reading and learning is great. But it usually is so much more powerful to engage. It helps to keep us motivated and accountable when we are active part of community. And keeps this in front of our minds so we don't forget about importance of it and slip away in our old habits. Sharing is also therapeutic. This is a major reason why AA meetings work so good. But that was developed before internet era. These days we can get most of the same benefits online through communities like this. So don't underestimate the power of active participation.

    I would also like to suggest you to look into mindfulness meditation. It has helped me personally tremendously to learn how to deal with urges and triggers. It takes a while to get good at it and notice results, so you need to be consistent with it, but once you do it's very powerful. It has been used by sages for thousands of years to deal with various issues of the mind. And in recent decades the science is also catching up to what ancient sages have know for centuries. Meditation these days are widely used as very effective tool by psychologists for treating addiction and by neurologists for supporting recovery of the brain after physical injury. Plus it is generally a great exercise for the brain the same way as jogging is great exercise for the body.

    You gotta make sure it is proper mindfulness meditation though. "Mindfulness" meditation where we just focus on breath is more like a concentration meditation instead. It works too but differently and not as powerfully in my experience. Real mindfulness meditation however trains you to accept your urges by understanding the nature of them by observing them, not just suppress them by concentrating on something else instead. It makes you comfortable with them. And once you accept and become comfortable with them there is no need to get rid of them, so there is no need to PMO. Only reason why we PMO is because that urge, that itch in our crotch is uncomfortable, we wanna get rid of it. And then after PMO we have our release. Or we simply want pleasure. And inability to have that pleasure makes us uncomfortable. But if we accept that we can not have pleasure then resistance is gone and there is no reason to PMO.

    Acceptance and mindfulness is the key. Check out this Ted talk on acceptance and mindfulness practice, it gives a good idea of what's it's about when it comes to philosophy. The mindfulness practice as described by psychologist in a the video can be used by itself but ideally should be used as supplementation to your daily sitting meditation. Sitting meditation I personally practice and recommend to people is as explained by meditation expert in this YouTube playlist. If you don't like the monk or want other method there is this awesome smartphone app called Headspace for guided meditations.

    Wish you lot's of strength and success in your reboot journey!
     

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