for some people, masturbation might be a bigger problem than porn

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Deleted Account, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. personally, i dont consider pictures of nude girls posing for camera as porn. imo, it is just like playboy.
    as for how porn affects me - it relaxes me and when i focus on the sensations caused by looking at nude girls (and porn), it becomes a meditative experience.
    i must also add that while watching porn diminishes my ability to focus, looking at pictures of nude girls does not.
     
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  2. note to self - Dont play chess AT ALL. it is very addictive and time consuming and uses up all the mental energy which could have been used for studies instead.
     
  3. Mordobarn

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    Ah. I can identify with that mediative feeling, albeit that naked women would never work that way for me!

    Ha ha! Good one.
     
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  4. summary for the day -

    watched/looked at -
    porn - no
    film/tv show sex scenes - yes
    picture of nude girls - yes

    shall eliminate the film/tv sex scenes from tomorrow as they are just like softcore porn which also diminish my ability to do high level math.
     
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  5. shall post weekly updates from now on.
     
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  6. Mordobarn

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    Also if you hit snags or lows where you need support!
     
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  7. day 5 no masturbation

    weekly updates won't work right now.
    sticking to daily updates (once a day) for now.
     
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  8. decided to not watch porn (and nude images) at all for the next 10 days in order to get my act together and complete all the pending assignments.

    just need to figure out an effective way to relax. videogames and reading fiction will probably help with stress.
     
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  10. Mordobarn

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    The best stress relievers include walking; meditation (for some people); exercise, e.g. sport; socialising; and of course light reading.

    Videogames are relaxing, but they can be energy thieves.
     
  11. The sun is the limit

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    Sounds very weird to me: to watch porn and not M. All those images are still in your head. And what do you do with them? You M with them. It sounds as if you are lying to yourself
     
  12. Mordobarn

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    @captain sparrow — Did you manage 10 days without porn? Tell us what happened!
     
  13. no could not. but managed the 'no touching the dick' part.
    now i have decided to completely quit porn and masturbation for ever and sex for the next 2 years (in order to use the extra time on studies and other fruitful endeavours). so, i shall be on monk mode for the next 2 years. i hope i am able to resist if an attractive girl shows interest (something which is not that uncommon when on long nofap streaks).
    this is perhaps the last post in this thread as i no longer wish to continue watching porn. i still think masturbation with porn is worse than watching porn w/o touching ur dick.. but i no longer think that porn is harmless. i have come to believe that it has its own set of potential problems, especially for the brain and how we see the world around us. i now feel that porn and masturbation come with equal but different sets of problems. so i still dont think that masturbation w/o porn is a good idea either. and i dont intend to do it.
    so as this thread has ended, i shall start a new journal for no porn, no masturbation and no sex ( for 2 years ).
    thanks to everyone for their valuable (and some not so valuable) input. have a good reboot.
     
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  14. This is so true. For me masturbation is a huge problem, whilst porn is my past likeyears ago. But it’s so hard to keep my hands off of me.
     
  15. 11square

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    There is always another excuse and reward. Our mind is a master on that.
    followed by shame and regret.
     
  16. Phantompoint

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    So, you can masturbate without watching porn? I think itself is already a challenge.
     
  17. Mordobarn

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    Before I became badly addicted to porn, this was easy for me, albeit that I found it boring.

    After I started to get PIED, I could no longer do so.

    Now that I'm ⅔ of the way into my hard reboot, I'm pretty sure that I'd be able to again… but I'm not going to try!
     
  18. Vandermeer

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    You can do this of course, but then it´s not "hard mode" (No PMO) but "following your own goals." If it would be so easy to leave out the porn, you could drop it too. Obviously you can´t.
     
  19. Mordobarn

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    I will never again watch porn. For all the right reasons. Not only for me, but also for all the men and women, and boys and girls, who are abused, trafficked, coerced, tricked, etc., into the porn industry. If I relapse, it will be without porn. But I'm determined not to relapse, also for all the right reasons!
     
  20. Vandermeer

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    So, God help us all! :rolleyes:

    I have just answered the question of the thread in general, before I realized that he tries now to drop the porn too, according his last message.
    I have done the same, no MO, while just watching the camsites (got a boner and that´s it) and it worked. But I had to admit, that I still got my kicks out of it, by watching regularly nudes or exciting stuff then and spending too much time on the sites. That´s not necessarily bad for itself, but as I consider the porn/cam stuff mostly degrading and just a substitute, I prefer not to. So it´s hard mode again.
     

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