There are some case where men is not to blame for men fapping and watching porn, or going to the prostitues, some wifes are not doing their jobs, starving their hisbands.
Same here. I was not good at sex and neither was my wife. We had no idea what we were doing! The things I thought I knew from porn only made things worse. But over time and as I stopped listening to those outside my my marriage (like porn and society) telling me what it “should be” and started listening to my wife say what she liked. It got better for both of us. Even though she is emotionally disconnected and resents me and has addressed trauma from before we me as well, she still enjoys sex and says “we’ve gotten pretty good at this”.
And many cases of men starving their wives and not doing their job ( if u think if sex as a job lol). Men are always responsible for their choices, just as women are. One is not forced to masturbate or go to prostitutes. That is a choice one makes. If you are unhappy with your sex life there are many options before you resort to those.
It really sucks to be in a relationship where you aren’t getting your needs met. But I can’t agree that this means you don’t have accountability for your actions. If my wife was in a horrible accident or got a disease or had a stroke that made her unable to have sex, I don’t think that’s an excuse for being unfaithful. At least, I wouldn’t respect myself if I went down that road.
No, no. I meant men, at their own younger ages, are exposed to porn. And start to develop ideas about what sex is that are not actually pleasurable for their partners.
I I have 2 married pals, they complain wife is starving them, there is nothing wrong with her health, so they said they just fap to porn.
But also, the fact that you are reducing sexual preferences to porn categories shows how pornsick you still are. In long term loving relationships, most healthy men will have to like old women because....women get old, too. And wives have babies. Why would anyone want to have sex with someone reducing them to a porn category that they may or may not be into?
Statistically, they were doing porn before they even met their wives. And learning how to be bad at sex. And then using that as a justification to do what they were doing anyway. Lots of men think getting married or finding a girlfriend will cure their porn use. It does not.
I probably still have a lot to learn about the world I guess, best I tone it down on concepts from 80s and 90s action movies because all of those are scripted yet are still fun to watch, I did know that saloons had strict gun rules, but considering some of the events that happened around that time period I didn't know that A&B charges were a concept and I did watch an episode of The Joe Rogan experience where he talked about his experience with MMA and how knocking people out didn't feel good.
And my point is that in a healthy life, there is one woman who changes many times and your love and connection keep the connection and attraction going. Porn destroys that by turning sex into fast food convenience, full of categories and labels and dehumanization.
I have friends that are single and divorced and they avoid porn and masturbation. Mostly they have focused their lives and their value on things other than sex. We get together and talk. Real talk, not surface stuff. Having REAL connection with other people is far more valuable in avoiding PMO than anything else I’ve found.
No they are really starving their husbands, it did not ask for more details would be impolite. Point is there are some cases wjere wifes arent doing their jobs.
If you genuinely consider it a wife's "job" to have sex, rather than sex being a shared experience that both partners work at through life, you are already beyond reasoning with. If YOU have reduced it to a job to get done, it's over before it starts.
Omg, such a good point. I’ve been married 25yrs and we’ve both changed a lot. You have to be willing to accept change. She is in menopause and it causes some problems. But it’s not like she can help it. So I find self worth in being kind and patient. But a “nice guy”. I’m honest about how I feel, but also not demanding to have my way.
