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Destroyed a marriage before it started

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by jparcher1, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. jparcher1

    jparcher1 Fapstronaut

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    Hello I’m a new user and this is my first post. I wanted to tell my story to get it in the open and spend the time processing it.

    I first started heavily watching porn while I was deployed and away from home. I was in a loveless marriage at the time and I was an angry sad man who couldn’t process my pain. So I would go to porn initially for release, but the longer I did it the more I hated myself and the more it became a simple numbing mechanism. My long standing addiction made me numb to a Naked woman’s body. Eventually the only thing that would work was the noises of sex, but they had to be intimate sounding. The marriage was emotionally abusive and it took everything out of me. I eventually divorced her. Despite having two kids and moved on with my life.

    After I separated from my ex wife I met the most amazing woman I had ever met. She was smart, funny, kind, beautiful and sexier than anyone I had ever met. She was everything to me. For almost a year and a half I was porn free. But I had never dealt with my deep seeded problems that made me go to porn in the first place. I think during that time I was numbing myself with work and working out. Anyways ,my SO was so good to me she started helping me through my issues. This brought back memories that I had suppressed and it started to become too much. In late January I went back to porn in our home. She never knew about it while I was doing it. We eventually moved to a new house where she felt completely free of my past relationship and my issues that were involved with it, but I brought the porn with me. I felt so bad all the time. I was going to tell her what I was thinking and doing. However, the night that I had finally hit an “emotional” rock bottom she caught me in the bathroom. This was last week. It wrecked her. We were supposed to get married in April and it threw us into a living hell that I caused. I could see her disgust and anguish in her eyes every time she looked at me and every time she talked to me. I was convinced I ruined it all. However, together we went to the court house on the 7th of March and we got married. It was solemn to say the least. She gave me a chance, and she still married me. She admits to not trusting me and even sometimes hating the man that took the love of her love away. We talk deeply about my addiction in painstaking detail to the point where I start to get depressed, but I think it helps her feel better.

    At this point I’m trying process everything I did, get the help I need to make myself a better man. And then maybe, when I’m a better man, when all the love and trust of my amazing wife back.

    My hopes are that this forum will provide useful help and support.
     
  2. 1dayattatime

    1dayattatime Fapstronaut

    Welcome to the community dude. Full honesty is the way to go. Im glad that you told her even if you got caught. It is tempting to minimize and not admit to everything. You are much more likely to succeed with this way. I look forward to seeing where this journey takes you.
     
  3. jparcher1

    jparcher1 Fapstronaut

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    Initially I did minimize everything. She proved things that I did and called me out. Over the next day or so I told her everything. But I still initially lied to her about how much I watched/ where I watched and if I took it to completion
     
  4. Trigirl78

    Trigirl78 Fapstronaut

    As a SO of a PA who didn't 'realise he had a problem' until I pointed it out, I can empathise with you and your new wife. It is comforting to hear just how much you think of her and a reminder to me that the PA isn't about what we are not! You can both recover from this, if you continue on this honesty path - its admirable!! Keep her with you on the journey, be patient with her (my guy gets agitated with me sometimes), perhaps seek counselling to talk through the painful stuff as sharing too much can re-traumatise her.

    Keep going, read lots, watch & talk talk talk.

    Take care & good luck
     
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  5. I am happy that she is with you. Advice: do not let her taking advantage of that, but be strong enough to stop doing the thing. Good luck.
     
  6. I think you are in the perfect situation for developing the relationship to a stronger degree by confessing to your other half how much pain you are in and how much help you need. She is indeed a good wife if she is willing to help you with this problem, but she would not be a good one if she stuck up her nose and left.
    I think by confessing all of this to her, you reverse the negativity, and turn it into a good thing.
     
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  7. jparcher1

    jparcher1 Fapstronaut

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    It’s been 8 days since I last looked at porn. It’s been 8 days of deep seeded pain towards myself and what I did to my marriage. Right now I’m really focusing on fixing my inner problems and making them completely transparent. I’ve started listening and reading literature from Dr. John Gottman and focusing on my marriage. I think if I understand a better more healthy way to communicate with her the rest of the issues will come to pass.
     
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  8. jparcher1

    jparcher1 Fapstronaut

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    10 days. Another set of lies unraveled, the more I tak to my wife the more unfolds. I had been watching porn from early childhood, not deployment like I had said ( is as scared she’d see the forum). I had also done it multiple times a week. Still the sound was what I wanted primarily but I did watch the videos as well. My “break” from porn was also only round 1-2 months not the year and a half I had said. I know lying was not the right option but I also didn’t want to lose her... it’s hard to look st myself and consider anyone accepting me with what I have done.
     
  9. If you want to save your marriage, you can't keep giving trickle truths. Every time there are new disclosures, she is being retraumatized again and again. Please understand how much more damaging and painful it is for her to think she knows everything only to find out there's more...and there's more. You have to tell her everything once and for all. I'm telling you this as the wife of a PA who has gone through all of this myself.
     
  10. IMO, you're more likely to lose her from continued lying than you are from the whole, plain, painful truth.
     
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  11. Susannah

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    Exactly right. Tell her everything all at once. Even and maybe especially things she could not find out on her own. Do not minimize, do not decide for her what is important for her to know. Just say it all. I am also an SO and my husband did so much harm by revealing things little by little. I know he was terrified, but it was so cruel to me and ultimately ruined any chance of trust between us. Every time I would get back on my feet and start to feel better and rebuild my life, I would get hit with something else and would be knocked back to where I started. Eventually, I lost confidence in myself and was afraid to even try to move forward, never knowing when the next ton of garbage would be dumped on my head. At some point, I completely stopped believing anything he said. Whatever he disclosed to me, I automatically multiplied it by 10 and assumed that was closer to the truth.
     
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  12. 1dayattatime

    1dayattatime Fapstronaut

    I did the same thing when i was discovered. I really wish i could take it back. Stop now man. The ladies that posted here are right it is way worse to trickle truth. I hope you can man up and tell her everything. There is still hope through trickle truth and i dont judge you for it. You need a place where it is safe to be fully honest dude. That is the only way out of this addiction.
     
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  13. jparcher1

    jparcher1 Fapstronaut

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    I’m coming in at a loss... I have reached a point in my mind where I can accept that I wasn’t an evil person and that my decisions were a product of bad decisions leading to an addiction that I couldn’t control. I’m finally coming to grip with how horrible of a life I created, but I know it wasn’t a choice at that point but something much deeper and worse. I’ve come clean with myself and what I did and that I need to do everything I can to fix it.

    My SO, a very intelligent person, is saying it’s not a real addiction and that every time I did it I was making this evil choice/bad choice.... I feel so torn because I knew I hurt her so bad with what I did... but I need to heal from my damage as well, but she is unwilling to support it or admit that I had an addiction.

    This is pushing more and more to hating myself again, I felt so good after reading a book letting me know I had a problem but it wasn’t by an active choice for lust, it was a chemical need for numbness and escaping reality... but now after my SO talked to me I’m doubting all of that, I’m feeling like a horrible person again, I just want to be alone and away from her and everyone else....
     
  14. Is she willing to learn any information about PA so that she can have a better understanding of how it truly affects people? Would she come here to nofap to read journals of SO's and PA's? I'm sure it's difficult not having any support from her, but you shouldn't let that get in the way of your recovery. I'm sure she's hurting, too. Your recovery is for you and will make you a better person. Stay committed to your recovery and hopefully, in time, she will see your efforts and be more willing to be supportive.
     
  15. I think there is a problem concerning sympathy here. Your SO I think to a certain extent cannot relate to what you're going through; what also concerns me, and I do not want to sound misogynistic here, but over the notion that she is a woman. I am just saying this because I feel like perhaps if one were to go to a woman about this problem, then there is this terrible gap; it's hard confessing one's problem with sex but it's also quite a challenge if a man confesses to a woman about it, and for many reasons why.
    But I want to say to you that she is in the wrong, with the exception of labeling your decisions or habit as BAD.
    Do not hate yourself my friend; this proves challenging but self-hatred, believe me, as strangely enticing or habitual as it comes to be as times, is not worth it, and it gets no one anywhere! I have dealt with self-hatred before; but I've read some psychological literature beforehand that has stated how self-animosity can greatly disrupt a person's intentions, one's goodwill. It does the opposite of what one would expect it to do; if someone falls into self-hatred because of porn and is absorbed by it, then more than likely, that is not going to repel them away from the porn, but more than likely cause them to give in.
    If you can, find someone else to talk to, and share yourself with. I think therapy could be a good way of dealing with this. A good therapist can help someone raise their chin and beat whatever challenge comes to them.
    I know you will get out of this alright. Just hang in there and learn to love yourself. Think about the positive things associated with your own individual character. When you first do this, you will more than likely think of nothing else but the negative, but push past and ignore that, for there is always a positive.
    You got this!
     
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  16. Lilla_My

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    Your SO carries a lot of hurt. Its very hard for a woman to understand that this is a compulsive behaviour. We are not yet taught the dangers of pornography in school. Innocent curiosity that ends up in vicious, mind altering micro cheating. Let her be angry, it will eventually fade away.

    Its not necessarily what a person does, but how they make things right, that ultimately defines them. If you kick this, you prove to her that she is more valuable than the women on screen. Most of us, at some point or another, have made "evil" choices. But when you get addicted to doing good things, you eventually start to forgive yourself for the bad.

    Show her some brain scans for people dealing with porn addiction. Once you see what it does to the mind, you can never again look at it the same way. The healthy you is a good person. Find him again, and forgive yourself. You are worth that.
     
  17. 1dayattatime

    1dayattatime Fapstronaut


    I hear you logically thinking things through and it is obvious that you have done a lot of research. Those are awesome man, keep it up. Something with my wife that i still struggle with is the idea that she has her own reality that is not necessarily the same as mine and i dont need to change it for us to have a healthy relationship. It is normal for betrayed partners to not be able to support their PA, that is why it is so important for you to develop your own support network to help you through.

    For example when your SO says those things to you about your choices, what she is trying to express is her pain that was caused by your choices. The key to empathy is seeing past her stated belief and hear the emotion behind it. Try saying things like. "If i believed that i would feel hurt and angry, is that what you are feeling?"

    This is only possible if i feel supported in some way from elsewhere in my life. It is a messy process. You both need people who can understand your perspectives.
     

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