I agree with you except with your use of "sexual assault" - at most it was "attempted sexual assault" as from the victims account no sexual activity took place. (Though from the rumors it seems to have happened with others). I do not find it a trivial distinction. And when dealing with very serious topics like this I believe being careful with ones choice of words is all the more important.
It seems only on a case by case basis. Quoting from Wiki, the Crown Prosecution Service states: "It is not in the public interest to prosecute children who are of the same or similar age and understanding that engage in sexual activity, where the activity is truly consensual for both parties and there are no aggravating features, such as coercion or corruption."
I see, so for example a 16 yer old and a 15 year old might not face legal issues where as a 16 year old with a 12 year old likely would. Certainly in Scotland anyway I believe you are considered legally an adult at 16 in Scotland as opposed to 18.
All sexual activity by minors is treated on a case by case. I believe you are still a minor until you become a legal adult at 18. So I'd imagine a 16 year old with a 12 year old would likely be treated far more critically than a 16 year old with a 15 year old. The latter case is unlikely to be punished unless there are exceptional circumstances. I think Scotland is more severe than England.
My take on Kevin Spacey is that this is just the tip of the iceberg for him, and he's still just the tip of the iceberg for Hollywood. Rumors suggest that sexual assault in Hollywood rather than being the exception is in fact the rule. And rumors also suggest that pedophilia is the dark, filthy secret of the Hollywood (and DC?) elite. All eyes are on Corey Feldman - God protect him...
What I have quoted above was my response to your previous post. I apologise if this was not clear to you. The law you refer to, if I understand correctly, is not national legislation, but determined state by state. You also mention having "sex with anyone under 16", but that is not what Anthony Rapp has accused Kevin Spacey of. All I am trying to do is keep this thread on track with the opening post by @Lazarus Shuttlesworth.
well said man. Him coming out as gay is just a distraction to him trying to hit on a 14 year old. Typical hollywood PR move. I like Kevin Stacey one of the better actors out there especially in House of Cards but he did apologize for what may or may not have done which is most than most people might stay in a written statement.
Either way you look at whether the definition is pedophilia or not is irrelevant. The mans career is completely over which sucks because I really enjoyed him as an actor. The thing that bothers me the most though is that most of these Hollywood accusations are like 30 years ago seem to be boiling over into which hunt territory by allowing today’s sensitive 24 hr mass media politically correct culture be the judge, jury, and executioner over things that were more common place and accepted 30 Year’s ago. It is extremely dangerous territory when I read a headline in a national newspaper that says “Woman accuses (fill in the blank) Hollywood actor of Sexual Harrassment..... only to then read into the article that says that back in 1984 Blank actor tried to get her up to his room for sex and when she said no he stormed away angerily?? Really??? So a mans career is over because you felt offended 30 Year’s ago???? I even saw a news report about a woman claiming sexual assault by former President Bush (the real old one) because she apparently got to close to him in his wheelchair and he touched her back side and told her an off color joke? The dude is in his 80’s with a brain disease...that is an instance where u as a woman assess the situation to decide if that instance was truly predatory or was it simply an act done by a person at the end of his life losing control of his faculties
As for someone like Harvey Weinstein The man is apparently a pig in both looks and actions and while he is getting what he deserves publicly for his decades of actions, I feel no remorse for most of these women he tried to do things to. What you call victim blaming I call accomplices and accessories after the fact.. I get it when you feel u can’t come forward in fear of retaliation as a young actress up against someone who can make or break you. But a lot of these women have been stand alone dominate actresses for years with total control of their own power in the industry but yet they still didn’t bring their allegations to light until some woman finally took the next step. How many innocent actresses could be saved had u not spoken up sooner? Also I believe lawsuit hush money should be illegal. The fact that anyone can claim to be sexually assaulted but give me x amount of millions and I won’t tell anyone is insulting and I think if a woman seeks money for silence she should be held liable when the next woman is assaulted by the same man
Great actor, but after the second dude accused him, he just lost any remaining credibility and my respect. There's something about this that just makes too much sense.
I think him saying that he was gay was such a PR move to negate what he has done. He feels that it might just lessen the blow of the blacklash on him. Pretty pathetic but then again he did apologize for what he may or may not have done at the time.
yeah he did "apologize" but those apologize has no value. just this morning i saw on the news another guy who was 18 at the time harry dreyfuss who has been molested by him while his father was in another room. this actor is one sick person. and other 8 people on his last tv show house of cards said that they have been harassed by him
Execution huh.. well you are on this website as you are probibly addicted to porn.. all the people in porn are all being sexualy abused even if they are willing participents. You jerk off in a room while watching people have sex that most likely all were sexualy abused as kids and a now drug addicts and hate them selvs and are repeating their childhood trama. Also you have seen child porn of women under 18 having sex. There s no way to police the age of all the porn from all over the world and 3rd world countrys. So you sir have jerked off to child porn. Everyone on this website has by defalt as there is no way to tell the ages of all the people you have seen.. so go exicute yourself for being a sex addict cronic masturbator who watches videos of people abusing each other for your own sick pleasure.. you say there is no way to redeem these people, yet you are on a website dedicated to people stoping self dystructive sexual behavior.. do you know what the word Hypocrit means?
First off saying everyone here has looked at child porn is entirely untrue. I can look up and see famous pornstars ages. Plus in other threads I mention that I only watched milf/cougar porn. Earlier in the post you quoted I mentioned rapists, and I even specifically named Bill Cosby as an example. The fact that some of the performers were sexually abused as kids is irrelevant, some weren't. Not to mention most abuse survivors dont work in porn. Lastly if you're going to go on an emotional rant of my post at least grab a dictionary and check your spelling. I'm here to talk to people who can present themselves as literate adults.
These accusations are now coming forward at such a pace that it's hard to follow. Honestly, if it's all true, which much of it appears to be, I am astonished. I can't help but think what someone like Jimmy Stewart or Charleston Heston would have said or done had they been alive to witness this today. It boggles the mind. Where are all the Hollywood conservatives today?
Ditto. People should accuse the perpetrator asap or bug off. We're in EXTREMELY dangerous territory when anybody can come up with an accusation decades later and build a case around it.
As if i read all your posts and know you are into old people porn and that you look up the ages of all the people you jerk off to.. where do you get the info that most people in porn dont have a history of childhood abuse? And yes i am a bad speller.. but it still gets my point across. And the fact im a bad speller does not change the fact that us all on here and including you are sex addicts who need outside help and support to quit wanking.. you said people should be exicuted as they cant be redeemed.. I say look in the mirror.. do you think you are a hopeless case that can never be redeemed? How different are you that you are on this website because you cant control your own sexual behavior.. im just saying condeming people to death when your own house is dirty aint that smart.
