***(DOCTORS SAY MASTURBATION IS A HEALTHY ACTIVITY) ***

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Max55555m2, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Doctors know shit. Many of them are just merchants with a degree.
     
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  2. Max55555m2

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    No actually I have no idea about that
     
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    No your wrong actually doctors have knowledge but but butttt the power of pharmaceutical companies is the problem... You may have seen that different doctors recommend different medicines from different companies... Now iam gonna show you the true picture... Actually the hospital in which doctors are working that hospital receives money monthly and tell their doctors to recommend it's patients the medicine of same companies those who pay hospitals and medicines have side effects too but they heal too and give you relief from pain too so stop criticizing the whole doctors and medicines companies we are just here to criticize those doctors who are saying masturbation is healthy
     
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  4. Max55555m2

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    Some scientist use to say they were famous scientists that if the person is gay its not his fault he was born gay his genes is gay... They said that to make gay ppls happy to give them fake assumptions and metaphors but after some time when their theories were investigated the investigators said those scientists were gays that's why they lied to hide their reality too
     
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  5. Medicine is not only pils. They know just this. Pils, pils and again pils. There are so many ways of curing yourself other than pils and pharmaceutical BS. So I say that their knowledge is very limited.
     
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  6. Max55555m2

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    No doctors knows how to cure with natural ingredients too but you know they get paid after recommending medicines
     
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    The doctors who says masturbation is healthy are assholes
     
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  8. Highly doubt it. They don't want to read new things, don't want to self-improve themselves, don't want to widen their perceptions.
     
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  9. The fucking people says that masturbations does not cause weakness;it guilt does so.can those fucking people do heavy task after masturbation?they are just liar's.Masturbation causes huge loss of energy and body takes much time to recover. so there is wastage of days and nights in making those drained energy again.
     
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  10. JamesRK

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    While I agree that doctors are just as subject to bias as the rest of us and we as a society have a problem with instant gratification – meaning we are more prone to look for quick fix medical treatments – I don't think that healthy is an absolute. It's always relative.

    I don't think any doctor would claim that masturbating three times a day every day is healthy, and if you described to them a PMO problem, again, I don't think they'd advocate for continuing. (Remember that not everyone who masturbates has a problem.) However, if you look at things in perspective, a doctor may advocate for masturbation as an alternative to promiscuous hookups because its effects are less severe than STD's or an unwanted pregnancy. They may recommend it for stress relief since (for many people) its addictive effects are less severe than using drugs. I think in most cases, making a blanket statement that a behavior is purely healthy or unhealthy is garbage.
     
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    I think doctors do not suggest to use this energy in several ways.there is no positive thinking about semen.They simply says drain it when you feels urges and no one is initially addicted to it and I think Frequency is dependent on pleasure more than anything else.If one gets pleasure and support from articles then he might cross limit as we did.
     
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    Hi all. Honestly I don't think the doctors are wrong. Masturbation certainly can be good in many ways. But here's whats wrong, they didn't tell you the flip side of the coin, neither did they tell you the specifics of what they mean. At least in the articles that claim that masturbation is completely normal and fine.

    Yes, masturbation can relieve stress and clear your head since " blood will flow to your dick and leave your head, reducing and headache you have ". But did they mention how it can cause a very bad brain fog soon after your climax? No they didn't. Of course masturbation can "remove" your old sperms and your balls will have new and healthy sperms, but they did mention how by not masturbating, your body will naturally remove the old sperms in the form of wet dreams? Guess not.

    Also, did they even mention anything about porn usage? I think that their claims of the benefits of masturbation are only supposed to refer to very moderate masturbation and zero porn usage. However, society nowadays tends to link masturbation to porn. Masturbation 50 years ago will never have anything to do with jerking off in front of a computer screen! That's what we NoFappers learned, and through the hard way.

    So my take on this whole situation is this: Porn advertisers try to exploit these claims that masturbation if healthy and completely fine, and they purposely use this and encourage people to masturbate. Like I said, society nowadays links masturbation to porn usage. Hence the porn advertisers will benefit since more people will think it's fine and healthy to watch porn. Noticed how I didn't write masturbation instead?

    Personally, I've been tricked by them. They're good at exploiting these "loopholes" to encourage people to do things that will obviously harm them. We learnt our mistakes the hard way. So let's try and spread the word of never using porn to others so less will feel the pain we are going through!
     
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    its only healthy for old people because it reduces risks of prostate cancer.
     
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    For me it sounds like a lot of guys, think that doctors are devils with degree. I don't know what doctors you go too, but no doctor I ever went to, gave me pills until we tried many other different strategies. Of course there are some of those people, but you will find such people in every other aspect of society too.

    Also: It seems that a lot of you confuse masturbation (in moderation!) with an addiction. These are not the same.

    You did not only say that. You made a whole lot of other claims, without any proof given. And that is just not right! You can't just say things are like that, without giving evidence. That's stupid.

    So please let me show you some parts of what you said:
    You plan on proving someone wrong...That can only work with evidence.

    Just a claim. No evidence, that any doctor said that. Give me a trustful source and I'll believe it. Otherwise, just a claim.

    Wrong. The process of building sperm happens in your testicles. For more information see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogenesis

    Sperm is not a hormon. Hormones are signaling molecules, that target distant organs to regulate physiology and behaviour. Sperm is not.
    (see Dr. Kleine/Prof. Dr. Dr. med. habil. Rossmanith Hormone und Hormonsystem. Eine Endokrinologie für Biowissenschaftler, Heidelberg 2007)

    So basicially your whole example just isn't true, as sperm is not a hormon.

    Same for your post.

    I just can't stand, when people try to blame literally EVERYTHING on porn and masturbation. Sure, PMO is bad. I know and I also say it is true. But please, not demonize everything. That just won't lead anywhere good.
     
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    In Russia doctors are not paid as much as in the West and they all have to take the oath. Thank you for noticing that calling oneself a doctor is not a position of finance but a way to help people through your profession.

    I would like to be a doctor when I'm older if I can't be a musician, actor or author (which let's face it are unrealistic dreams) because I'd like to help people if I can't help myself. It also offers financial security and benefits but the primary goal for myself as a doctor would be to help people and save lives, and value others above myself. This selflessness is what is a driving aim for me because I always feel too selfish and taking advantage of other people's innocence.
     
  16. I don't care what anyone says, human beings are just that humans, we can rarely do things in moderation. I have gone a 100 and more days without PMO and when I returned to PMO, I felt horrible. So masturbation is not good and shouldn't be done.
     
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  17. Really? I will try ......And thanks for sharing your experience..it might be a cause because I consume less water than others.
     
  18. I don't understand how brain fog, laziness, demotivation, throwing away your life force among other side effects would a person experience just for a few moments of meaningless pleasure.
     
  19. I Free I

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    The Truth .
     
  20. Alcohol is fine in moderation. SO is fast food. Even opiates serve a valuable purpose when used correctly. Masturbation is also fine. The problem is when you abuse it. Don't write off masturbation as problematic, just because you can't do it without abusing it. That transfers blame from you to it. Which is bullshit.

    I was thinking at the end of last week "it would make me infinitely more comfortable if I could MO". This was a rational voice. I hadn't ejaculated in a long while, and my body was screaming for it. But doing it when it would be good for me would lead to me doing it when it wouldnt be. So I abstained.

    Don't go blaming the doctors who have the audacity to say that semi-frequent ejaculation is healthy (of fucking course it is! The counterfactual would be that procreation is bad for us...). Accept the basic fact that what many people can do, you can't.
     
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