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***(DOCTORS SAY MASTURBATION IS A HEALTHY ACTIVITY) ***

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Max55555m2, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Born_For_War

    Born_For_War Fapstronaut

    I'm going now, I've said enough.

    Obviously there are some trolls on here who want to wind you up. If your arguments are valid, then there's no reason for them to get to you. So relax. You're in the clear.

    Masturbation is not healthy. This is in fact an objective truth, and anyone can verify it by MOing themselves and experiencing the adverse effects ;)
     
  2. Max55555m2

    Max55555m2 Fapstronaut

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    Bye
     
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  3. Born_For_War

    Born_For_War Fapstronaut

    Cya my bro. All the best with your thread :)
     
  4. @Max55555m2 I am totally agree with your post. Masturbations kills in every manner
     
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  5. Max55555m2

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    Thanks
     
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  6. Max55555m2

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    Ppls who believe science will keep saying shit..
    The ppls who believe the one and the only true God who created all heavens earths solar systems and the entire universe who created every creature is one and the individual who belive the one never be afraid of anyone...!!!
    The individual who bow down to one can stand in front of anyone
     
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  7. What is fucking science. It can't understand nature properly after 1000 years also. Scientists have different views on similar topics. Nature and God is the most powerful. We are natural we are not Robots. So we should bow down to that most powerful God.
     
  8. Max55555m2

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    You have the brain and common sense so tell me who do we trust? The creation? Or the creator?
     
  9. God because true affection towards God takes away many pains and give peace.
     
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  10. JamesRK

    JamesRK Guest

    I would never criticize anyone for having a religion or a particularly value system, but that all is very subjective. Different people believe different things, and none of it can be truly proven or disproven. If you want to base different beliefs on your values, fine. However, know that if you attempt to argue using these beliefs your argument is only good to those who share your beliefs, and if you start denying what is known objectively as fact because of your beliefs, you lose credibility extremely quickly. "Common sense" is often what you fail to truly consider and just accept at a surface level, and sometimes your intuition is incredibly wrong.
     
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  11. Max55555m2

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    Yeah but I disagree with you hahaha
     
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  12. JamesRK

    JamesRK Guest

    And I totally support your right to disagree with my views. However, when you represent your beliefs as superior to objective fact and assert you are good at arguing, that's where I take issue.
     
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  14. Max55555m2

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    Not I'm the mood to argue but yeah I would love to answer your questions after three days
     
  15. Max55555m2

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    Your also a issue yourself hahahaha
     
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  16. Born_For_War

    Born_For_War Fapstronaut

    Nice. I'm hardly a bully, but I'm definitely on your side on this one.

    P.S. Yeah, I was going to stop posting. 'Till I stopped upon this Polish extravaganza, it's not porn but def. close to it. (I'm studying Polish language.)

    I'll be more careful in future.
     
  17. Hey man, that is an epic relapse and I am concerned you feel so bad from it. I am willing to listen and support you to try and recover and move forward. We all benefit from a helping hand when we are at rock bottom. Look after yourself mate.
     
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  18. IR254

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    Ok, guys. I will try one last time to explain my points and why I partially disagree with your view on the subject.

    That's basicially the point. "Continously". I totally agree, that masturbation isn't good if you do it all the time. If I wouldn't believe the negative effect of excessive porn use and masturbation, I would not be here. But I don't believe (because there is no proof yet), that masturbation once in a while is bad.

    Some of you will probably say now "I relapsed and feel like shit afterwards. So here is your proof!". I personally also know that feelings very well myself, believe me. But that is no general proof for negative effects of masturbation. Here is why:

    You can not compare the effects of masturbation for a recovering addict (like everyone of us!) with the effects for a non-addicted person, who only masturbates in moderation. It is basicially the same principle as for alcohol: If a non-addicted person drinks alcohol once a month, he will not gain negative side effects. BUT if a recovering (or already recovered) addict drinks alcohol only once, the negative effects are insanely high, just because they we're addicted before!

    That may be true in some topics, yes. I agree. But the thing about that is, that every scientific source explains their theories. There always is an explantion for their arguments. It is your duty to read those explanations and decide, if it sounds reasonable to you. Then you decide, what to believe. Simple as that. I personally find an scientific study 1000000x more reasonable than a personal experience from someone else, because I can reconstruct their claims. If you say, it is different for you, then fine. I accept that. But you have to accept my view, too.

    That whole paragraph is absolutely useless, because no scientist ever said that. You can't just make up a "scientific theory" in your head and say, that scientists "said that", if it just is not true. If you wanna make an example, then at least use a real theory.

    ...and they have reasonable explanations for their claims. You disagree, so what is your explanation? Why is that not correct in your opinion? You never explain your views and opinions! You just throw out claim after claim after claim!

    I don't treat them like gods. Also how can you know, if humans won't live on mars in the future? It might be true, it might not. No ones knows that yet. Scientist are just working on such things, which doesn't mean, that is is certainly happening.

    No, they are not. I already told you, that androgenes are the male sexual hormones. "Hormon" is a scientic technical term, so can't just say, that sperm is a hormon for you. That doesn't make sense at all.

    No, i won't. I'm doing NoFap for a reason. Also: As I explained earlier, I'm talking about masturbation in moderation here all the time. You are always talking about doing it excessively (which is in fact bad, I agree!).

    Not all people are experiencing this! Basicially all of us addicts do, but most non-addicted people live happily without bigger problems.
    Also I never said, that I love scientist. I just said, that I think they are a lot more understandable.

    If we are talking about excessive masturbation, I agree 100%, too!

    ...and I'm on your side with that. PMO is a problem!

    You did not give a single answer, because you never reacted to my arguments. You never explained, why my views are "wrong" or why you have a different opinion! As I said, you just throw out claim after claim after claim.

    Thank you! That's it!

    I am not listening, because what you say doesn't make sense! You never explain yourself!
    Also I'm not forcing you to believe me. I just give my point of view here.

    Nah, you didn't. (As I explain here in this post and my other posts before).

    It is not, as I explained ealier in this post.

    I respect, that you are religious. But don't force your believe on everyone else. Speak about your opinions and respect mine, too.


    To end this post, let's just agree to disagree. This discussion doesn't lead anywhere.
     
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  19. When when I masturbate throughout my teenage I feel guilty weakness unhappiness low. At some state I was so innocent(don't know about porn) at some stage I read masturbation in this frequency is quite good. Now on this stage I got addicted so much. So masturbation can't be healthy because by it none of the time I felt good.
    So masturbation is bad.lets body doing internal function by its own.. nightfall is better.
     
  20. Fucking ppls says it's realises tension stress. Alcohol does same as well and this doesn't meant it is good for health.
     

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