Thoughts??? Be as specific or vague as you want. To be clear, this is a discussion of a major problem in the world and how to deal with it. It is not a confession of anything.
ok, nobody is saying anything so I'll start lol... Is a pedophilic porn addiction any different than a vanilla porn addiction? How? Why? Does the road to recovery look different? How? Should mandatory reporting laws be as strict as they are? (Strictly pertaining to counselors of adults with pedophilic tendencies) Please, let's talk about this! So many people are trapped and need help!
Oh, of course. I guess I just meant... does it affect the addict in a different way? I agree, but should it be confessed to other people in the same way? If so, how does someone do that and get help without getting arrested? I disagree. I think one of the biggest problems with the situation is that addicts have basically no means to get help without interacting with the law, so almost all of them are then isolated which as we all know makes the problem a thousand times worse. There needs to be an avenue through which child porn (CP) addicts can get real, effective help without sacrificing their freedom. Thoughts?
it adds more shame it's a much greater issue than P addiction, plus it's a mental disorder donsult a doctor, it's a mental disorder after all
Yeah, I agree (3.) Ok, so what makes it a mental disorder? Are all sexual deviations mental disorders? Why?
Oh, I agree, but what makes it a mental disorder rather than simply a very bad sexual addiction/deviation?
technically it's both, it's a condition that affects your thinking, feeling, mood, and behavior and it's socially unacceptable by today's standarts
Ok, so is vanilla porn addiction a mental disorder as well? Cause it affects your thinking, feeling, mood, and behavior. BTW, if you can't tell, I'm not trying to pick a fight lol. I just want to start a conversation that helps those struggling with this to get to the bottom of it and change their lives.
hm, so that begs the question: can someone change/heal/get rid of a mental disorder? Cause I believe a mental disorder is something physically/neurologically wrong with a person's brain. I believe a porn addiction is when a person's brain has been conditioned to act/react a certain way with anything sexual, rather than there actually being something dysfunctional with their brain.
I believe when it comes to porn, at the end of the day, when we do become addicts, we are faced with a choice - to commit to a life of self-discipline and self-improvement, or to delve deeper into the addiction by actually committing the acts of the porn addict's unnatural fetish. I think that paedophilic acts can never be justified. There is a choice at which someone has committed to go out of their way and not choose the route of recovery.
It doesn’t have to be one or the other it can be both. Either escalation or a mental disorder. I’ve also heard that Severe OCD can contribute to this issue as well. I would even add that it can be generational families with a history of sexual abuse can pass it from one generation to another unfortunately. Out of shadows by Patrick Carnes touches on this subject a lot even has some stories of rehabilitated SO’s. It’s a hard read I didn’t know the book was gonna focus so much on this issue but it does give some perspective I guess.
There are people who were born mentally ill with anger issues, it's not like we let them casually walk around the streets because "they were born with it" you treat people like that, because no one cares you were born with it; If there's a guy punching people with no reason you don't think "is this guy mentally ill or is it a bad-attitude-disorder", You can be born mentally ill or you can be born healthy and become mentally ill later, either way you treat people like this; Is pedo porn worse than vanilla? Of course, pedos know that kids don't consent, they know they are getting raped, and for me a guy who watches other people have casual sex isn't as bad as a guy watching someone raping a kid, both are bad for your mental health but the second thing is just crossing the line; Porn addicts will watch worse and worse content to excite the brain, pedo porn is the final destination; People attracted to kids, if they seek help, I can respect them; if they don't, to me they should be locked forever; if they rape anyone then death penalty is honestly the only reasonable thing here, no doubt in that
Ok, I was thinking about mental disorders wrong. I was thinking they were a condition outside of your control like MS or ALS. I just did a little bit of research and that cleared it up a bit. Thank you! I'll have to look that up! I agree with you somewhat... the only issue with that is that a lot of adults in commercial porn are not consenting, and some kids and teens are consenting because they've been raised to believe it's normal whether by their parents are just the disgusting amount of sexual content the world shoves in their faces. To be clear, I'm not condoning it! Yeah, it's sad, but you can get worse... necrophilia... and I'm sure it can get worse than that I agree with you! Get help + change = great! Indulge in it = lock up
Yes there are adult porn stars who were harassed to do their job or molested in the past, there are even some that were raped on camera; however a typical porn addict doesn't see it, when he watches porn he doesn't think about the fact that the porn star doesn't like it, he usually doesn't even know, he may even think that they do enjoy it; this ignorance makes him better than someone who watches porn with the full knowledge that the porn star was in fact harassed to do their job and still find it arousing; Necrophilia imo isn't worse than being a pedo, sure it's abhorrent and unimaginably disgusting but atleast they don't rape someone who can feel, also I wouldn't waste time thinking about the worst fetish there is because you will just fill your mind with disgusting trash and you can blame only yourself for it
I would argue that neither person is better than the other, but rather the porn/fantasies affect the addict watching rape more severely. In addition, most of the time, the desire to watch rape is a result of watching consensual porn. Likewise, the desire to watch CP is a result of "milder" forms of porn. Ya know? Also, a lot of CP addicts do not view rape. A lot of them even refuse to look at anything with real kids because they can't be sure if it was consensual or not (the vast majority aren't consensual, of course) Again, I'm not condoning any of that. I'm just trying to shed light on the topic and create a place where people can be un-isolated. True true, it's just a different kind of perversion You're totally right about that!
1. No porn addiction is porn addiction, its just one of the extreme types 2. There is no road to recovary from pedophilia, unless it was porn induced 3. If they are no risk they shouldnt be reported