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Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by SpouseofPA, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. True-Self

    True-Self Fapstronaut

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    What's wrong with your wife trying to seduce you? You're her husband after all... I think both partners should make an effort to "keep things interesting".
     
  2. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    @noexcuses
    I am not trying to speak for @Thor god of thunder but i would like to reply to you.
    in my opinion, I believe you are taking his quote out of context.

    now here are my feelings about it,
    There is nothing wrong with a wife seducing a husband if consensual. However, if you mind is strictly on selfish mode and you are asking her to do it strictly for your own pleasure, some may think that is wrong.
    It all has to do with the intention of the heart and mind behind the action.
    but that is just my opinion.
     
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  3. I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. Really there was nothing wrong with any of the actions I watched, except that they weren’t my wife’s actions. The problem was me mentally forcing MY desires on her instead of being happy with who she was and what she felt comfortable doing. Respect for someone allowes them to like things you don’t and not like things you do. And if I display that respect it’s far easier for her to take into account my likes. Kind of like a vicious cycle, but good.
     
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  4. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    @kropo82 thank youfor your comments and taking the the time to read through the thread. And thank you for calling me brave. I dont feel very brave at the moment, but that is nice to hear.

    Question for all..... does anyone have triggers from just clothing? Ex: clothes on a mannequin? In the womens (under garments)? On a video game?
    How does that work for you? Just the clothing it self is where the thought ends? Or do you picture people in it? Or that body part?
    My husband says that his thought when he sees a bra could simply end at oooo thats a sexy bra. But i dont understand how that works?
    Thanks
     
  5. Doesn’t do anything for me now, but back when I was at my worst with the addiction, a lot of things triggered me. Clothing maybe would cause me to think of what it’s covering, but not the clothing itsself.
     
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  6. SpouseofPA

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    @Thor god of thunder
    thank you for being honest. :)
    So at your worst, your thoughts went further then what my husband is saying his thoughts are doing?
    He says he'd simply go yes that XXXX is sexy. and that's it. I don't get that. I understand thinking beyond that as in (what it is covering). But how can the item (if its a trigger not remind you of something/ make you think deeper)? Has that ever happened to you? Can you explain that kind of thinking to me?
     
  7. I should add a trigger warning. This story might or might not be helpful....
    When i was 14 my dad and i camped at the lake fishing for a week. Kind of remote.
    We were on the boat, i was driving because my dad was drunk like usual. Anyway, a lady comes up on a jetskimand asks for help with their boat. I is swamped.
    We go to help. A houseboat is also there with a couple of old guys.
    Anyway, we help pull the half sunk boat out of the water and go back to camp. They ask if we will come back tomorrow to help some more.
    The lady was wearing a one piece red swimsuit and is really good looking.
    We come back the next day and are sitting on the houseboat deck. She is wearing some shorts i guess they loaned her while her swimsuit is drying over a rail. Well she is sitting on the deck in a way that i can see up the leg if her shorts. I don’t know what i’m looking at, but i like it. I had neve4 seen a woman’s private parts before. So t made me think about that swimsuit hanging there and how it covers THAT. AWESOME. The mind of a 14 yr old, ikr. So sometimes the connection just makes me think of things ive seen. And later P made it worse.

    Not so much now, but you have to stop feeding it.
     
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  8. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    @Thor god of thunder
    it does help some. Thank you for sharing that. but i have some follow up questions in my Trigger section.
    so when you saw the bathing suit you'd think of any "ladys private parts" even a school text book image and how it covered that? and it just progressed from there? do you think it is possible that he (my husband) is not being honest with himself about what its making him think? Or that he is not connecting the dots that he is not only thinking of the bra?[/SPOLIER]


    How did you stop feeding it?
     
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  9. Idk just stopped P to start with then stopped fantasizing and M. Then forced myself to reject thoughts I felt were wrong
     
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  10. Pictures of clothes never did anything for me
     
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  11. Sorry @SpouseofPA , i didnt read this closely this morning, i was getting ready for work. Im not sure what you mean by this question. But I’ll answer it as I understand it. You can clarify if i don’t get it right....

    When i saw that bathing suit, i was thinking about that woman’s girl bits that i just saw. These are the only ones i had seen irl or in P at that point. I truthfully didn’t really understand what I was seeing, i just knew it was new, forbidden, and awesome. Anyway, it was my general proxy for other girls if I fantasized about at that time. Girls in school mostly. If I imagined them getting naked, the one I had seen is the one I imagined them with. Not a textbook drawing. When I got the opportunity to see P that showed those parts later on, I got to see more of a variety and my ogling took on new dimensions.

    I don’t know if this is relevant to what you’re asking, but as ive thought about it, my looking at women really was hoping that somehow i would get to see the same thing again. I think that was what I was looking for. “If she crouches in that skirt, i might get to see...”

    Didn’t realize how much of an imprint that experience made on me until I was answering your question this morning.
    So thanks. :)
     
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  12. kropo82

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    I'm not sure how that works either but it is true for me too. There's an intimacy implicit in seeing underwear that is intoxicating even without imagining the people in them. It is hard to explain, sorry. It's hard to disentangle imagining a woman wearing the panties (say) but I do find the panties sexy in-and-of themselves, like your husband does.
     
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  13. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Yeah.
    I think I understand.
    We (me and my SO) just went into Victoria Secret.
    I thought I was going to have a heart attack.
    He was sooooo nervous.
    Instead he came out of there practically laughing.
    He said, I don't know why I used to get so worked up.
    Everyone wears underwear.
    Everyone.

    So there's that.
     
  14. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    @Thor god of thunder no that does help, it definitely gives me a starting point to ask my husband more questions. It kind of makes sense how the first one you saw turned into all of them, until you saw P. then it on all new forms.

    Thats actually really great to hear. :) ( Sometimes i feel like all my questions get annoying to people ( ive been told that my whole life, since i have ADHD).
     
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  15. SpouseofPA

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    @kropo82 Not trying to trigger you or anyone else, and if these are too personal just let me know and feel free to not answer them, but here are my questions:
    Why do you think that is?
    Can you explain what it is about clothing thats intoxicating? ( like cause you know what goes in them?, the color?)
     
  16. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    Has he ever explained what his thought process was and why he was so "worked up" over them?
     
  17. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Yeah, cuz it was supposed to be erotic and underneath... But he had a revelation recently.
    Whats so erotic about something everyone has everyday?
    Nothing.
    Literally Nothing is special about it.
    (that's a quote btw)
    Even kids have underwear.
    He was laughing out loud.
    No joke.
    He was thrilled to come to this conclusion.
     
  18. SpouseofPA

    SpouseofPA Fapstronaut

    thats amazing!
    Good for him :)
     
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  19. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    I think, for me, it is a peek into a concealed feminine world and that is exciting. I have often imagined what attractive women are wearing underneath, and when I did pornography I enjoyed the stuff that included slow undressing. It has that association for me, seeing something personal and normally hidden. It feels both naughty and like I have been invited in.

    It is hard to put into words, nothing seems to adequately explain my feelings. This is not something I ever talk about!
     
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  20. SpouseofPA

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    You are doing just fine explaining it. No explanation is stupid. Some just have more follow up questions so that I make sure I understand the message you were trying to convey. Or atleast thats how I think.
    Its hard to explain your own thought process, especially when you are someone who doesn't think super deeply, or express themselves, normally. That's definitely my husband's problem.
    So I commend you for trying, and thank you for that.
    I understand the naughty and invited in idea. That makes sense. But it's best to ensure you save that naughty intamite moment for your SO. That's a deep statement you gave. Or I think of it that way.
    Does clothing still do that for you?
     
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