Would you still get morning wood if you had venous leak?

I got my PIED after binging on porn for a week and after masturbating one day to porn via TMS/prone masturbation, my dick shrank in size over the course of 2-3 days.

Can one get venous leak from prone masturbation on a bed mattress?

 

I think not. I was a casual prone masturbator as well. I have done it many times. I even started masturbating prone when I was young. I also slept on my stomach for years and sometimes woke up with my erection stuck between my body in sometimes weird angles, but I still have no injury or problem. My urologist also said that you can not get Venous Leak by sleeping on your stomach and getting an erection. Prone masturbation is a little bit different of course, but like I said, many people including me on this forum were prone masturbators, and I've never heard of even one of them getting Venous Leak. Me neither. I did however develop a curve in my penis due to prone masturbation I think. But this curve is perhaps my greatest strength

 

Yeah, I have started masturbating prone when I was young as well. I've also masturbated casually prone masturbation wise on and off since - never have I had my dick shivel up, shrink, and I get the mental symptoms (brain fog, anhedonia, no arousal, depression, low motivation) as a result of it.

So my problem is most likely porn rather than venous leak, pretty much. Good to know.

 

@Daxos , speaking of morning wood and night time erections, I almost forgot to ask.

I think that my PIED/flatline is so severe that I believe that don't get nighttime erections during REM sleep. Is this possible? Or is this leaning towards a venous leak/physical problem sign? My dick is shriveled small. I believe that I never wake up with morning wood anymore due to the dopamine desensitization. Is this accurate or is this leaning towards physical problems because of no night time erections? I did get a semi erection twice in one day while standing being awake at work, so is this accurately PIED/flatline/dopamine desensitization or something else? Thanks.

 

Oh yes my brother, classic PIED. My morning wood is even worse than your's. My morning wood disappears seconds after I wake up. When I was in big NoFap streaks, I would get more frequent and stronger morning wood. It also depends on many other things, like hydration levels and more. I know few people who get raging boners every morning. When I was near to being fully recovered I also didn't have 100% boners in the morning 100% of the time.

Erections exist because the pelvic floor muscles contract the Bulbospongiosus and Ischiocavernosus, the muscles that contract parts of the penis and around it. When having an erection, these 2 muscles clam on your penile veins, making them constrict, so that blood stays in the penis. This is healthy and good. But whenever stimulation drops or the brain thinks sexy time is over, it will start releasing these muscles, making the veins open up and letting blood leave the penis.

When you have PIED, your brain is not sending either enough signals, or not strong enough signals to the pelvis and penis to keep these muscles contracted. So when you do get an erection when having PIED, it is very common to lose this erection within minutes, sometimes seconds, because your brain stopped sending signals to your muscles to keep the veins constricted. So once again, it is not a physical issue, but an issue in the proper working of the erection centers and dopaminergic centers of the brain, which are classic PIED symptoms. I have had this millions of times as well by now. You are fine my brother . Like I said, you cannot have Venous Leak when having nocturnal erections and morning wood.

When you don't have PIED, the brain can still send very strong stimulation signals to your penis and pelvic even while being a little distracted. This is because the response is much more sensitive and enduring than when you have PIED and the threshold for erections have become so high that only the most disturbing porn and scenes can get the brain to fire up well enough to send these strong signals.

 

I think you are flatlining. Shriveling dick, no more wood, even morning wood, are classic signs of PIED. Perhaps severe yes. I've ha periods as well where I had no erections for weeks and also very little morning wood. My dick sometimes was smaller while flaccid, and sometimes longer. Weird how it changed a lot. But I am fine as of today. Had a really good morning erection today. You will see that it varies a LOT. During your recovery you will notice that some situations will give you a semi-erection like you experienced. This is normal and happened to a lot of us. To me too. you need to have patience and ride out this flatline. But beware, the flatline takes weeks for some. for some only days, and for some not at all. I've never experienced a full-out flatline like many others have had, but it varies so much to each individual.

But I ask you, get rid of the idea of Venous Leak. This boat will take you to dangerous waters. Trust me, I've been there, and it absolutely depressed me and destroyed me. I thought I had all the symptoms of Venous Leak as well and went mad going to many urologists, but it turned out that I was fine and it was just this PIED demon. You have no idea how many guys on this forum have stressed over Venous Leak, but I've never read even ONE story of someone actually getting Venous Leak from PMO. Venous Leak can only happen genetically, if you have bad veins or bad working veins from the start, or when you get truly serious injury that sends you to the ER.

My brother, I ask you again to forget about VL. Do not let your fear of it destroy your life like it did to mine for 6 months. It were the absolute hardest months of my life. VL is extremely rare. If you've had morning wood in the past couple of months, your chances of having VL are less than 1%. You just have PIED, like me and Nick Young. Abstain for enough time and you will see changes.

 

I have had good nocturnal- and morning erections for the past 6 days. Sometimes they are around 80-90%, sometimes near 50% or something like that. But they are consistent now. I am 23 and I started having issues when I was 20 when I couldn't get erections anymore with girls. I started porn when I was around 13 or something.

 

If you can go from soft to hard with manual stimulation, jacking off, and maintain an erection under stimulation, you don't have a venous leak. Guys with venous leaks can't pump enough blood in as it leaves just as fast. Even with ED medicines guys with venous leaks can't keep erections because all the ED meds do is vasodilate the veins, which might make a venous leak even worse considering it's got a wider channel to back flow through.

With PIED your body is used to manual stimulation while watching porn, just need to decondition yourself from that. Over time you'll get more sensitive to other forms again. I'm only 20 or so days into this reboot and I'm already getting slight erections from thoughts, a good sign. A far cry from the ragers I got before PIED, but it's progress. The body has an amazing ability to heal, and adapt to stimulus, just needs to be given a chance.

Remember, porn is just playing on our biological desires, it's a hack, a destructive one. Keep your firewall up.

 

I can go from soft to semi-hard (not hard) with manual stimulation now, but if I try to jack off a second time after that, my dick has a hard time going semi-hard again and stays soft.

Is this a symptom associated with severe PIED?

 

sounds to me like you are reflecting and answering your own questions . Sounds like you were on the same boat as I was, panicking about every little thing about your penis you felt would be 'off'. If you can get erections in any situation, then you know that physically you are OK. If you then notice that you feel less or feel weird about your erections, it could very well be in your head yes. Try reconnecting back to your penis. Let go of fear and have faith in your tool. This particular path helped me a lot. Appreciate that it works and that we are saved from organic ED. Once I regained appreciation of my penis, it seemed like this confidence and faith awoke it again. Before I knew it, I was having daily erections. Right now I am having great morning wood still. Today woke up with awesome morning wood too, and I had zero morning wood for a month. Remember, erections are very much influenced by our psychological well-being at that very moment.

 

Yes. Definitely. Had this many times too myself. I would often jack off totally limb since it couldn't even get a little bit of blood in it

 

Jacking off mostly. Blowjobs do count has manual stimulation also, as they're not totally produced purely by arousal, but they're less intense than a male hand with a tight grip, so guys with PIED, and deathgrip syndrome might not be able to get erections with blowjobs.

 

Yes, guys with venous leaks don't have a locking mechanism in their main penis artery, so the manual pumping that comes with masturbating is useless, because there is nothing to trap the blood flow. If you had a venous leak you would not be able to get even a slight erection with any form of stimulation.

 

Correct