Why do they keep saying fapping is healthy?

Without weapons, there is no war.
Without alcohol, there is no drunk driving or idiocy.
Without protitution, women and men wouldn't be selling themselves for the deviancy of man and there would be no porn.
Without porn, we wouldn't be on this forum right now trying to scrap our lives back together like pieces of a puzzle.

So yes, I would forbid the things above without any regrets.

Freedom is just an idea. It is not something you can contain or grasp. If it means I am no longer free if those things cease to exist, I would rather be without such childish concepts.

Edit: I would like to apologize to the OP for high jacking your thread.

 

nice - that is your real core.

what if someone wants to sell his body and what if someone wants to buy this body?
what if someone loves guns?
what if someone loves beer?
there is no force! this people want to do or use that. how can you forbid that?
maybe a dictator would forbid that.

in the woodstock-times people fought for sexual revolution - this revolution turned into a porn-age.
no more romantic no more flowers - hardcore sex free for everyone.

by the way i worked for some years in the news-sector.

 

We have no freedom or free will. We have only the mirage of such things, but I will concede for now. It seems like you have a senseless retort for everything.

 

senseless retort? learn to accept other opinions bub.
this is a discussion and i make arguments - writing here is not forbidden or?

 

Accepting someone's opinion actually includes having "sense" to come up with a logical "retort". If you just gurgle up what everybody else thinks, you do not a opinion. You can't even have a consensus.

It is only a consensus when multiple people come to an agreement upon a single matter or multiple of the same subject. We cannot and never will come to an agreement because one side of the argument (yours) will always go in a circle of the same exact information repeated over and over until I give in and decide "hey, this guy might be right".

That is a form of argument many people I know have used and it is used to make you sound smarter than you actually are. You know nothing of the world no matter kind of experience you have. I know nothing of the world, but choose to keep an open mind to things such as "conspiracy theories".

The point I was trying to make is that people are too blind to put their mind to use and actually think for a second. They just walk on by that homeless man on the side of the rode. They just toss their trash on the ground. They just do whatever the fuck they want and use freedom as an excuse.

You and I are the same, yet, you want us to be different. Everyone is the same. We strive so hard to be different that we never actually get to find out who we truly are. People don't want sex and violence. We are raised to want sex and violence. All of your simple minded ideals projected across this forum are both misleading and just end up repeating the same information over and over.

I have seen you on several occasions repeat the same info about how you act the way you do because of all prostituion you took part in. It is your fault you act the way you do and yes I am attacking you directly. I wouldn't be surprised with the way you act that all of this is just you being bored and wanting attention.

You can act like the cool guy all you want. If I didn't bother you with my comments you wouldn't even worry about replying. You care and so do I. We are the same in many ways and yet you want to be stubborn and different. All because society wants you to feel that way.

You act snobby and disgusting. You rag on overweight women, you find people who's opinions you don't like and make them feel like shit, and then you even have the audacity to blame your actions on something you did that you can change anytime you want, just like a child.

I wanted to come to an agreement with you or at least agree to disagree, but what you say makes no sense and just makes the arguement go in circles. You like riling people up and watching them make themselves look like idiots. Your no better than a troll. Every once in awhile you are going to have to accept that you are not right. I am saying all this, not to prove you wrong, but on the hopeful mentality that you will maybe listen.

Goodbye and good luck. I am very frustrated as you can tell. You got what you wanted. I hope you find peace for your very hurt soul.

 

respect sun bro. you are really attentive. i got what i wanted.

right i was very deep in the porn-and-hooker-swamp - but i dont blame anyone for that.
i know how the "other side" works - many years of experience. believe me i am not proud of that. i have to live with that.

i read many times this "porn conspiracy thing" in this forum. i must smile every time - jews, the state, dwarfs, aliens - who is sitting behind porn?!

sorry i will repeat again (my IQ is quiet low):
porn is just a business. there is zero conspiracy behind porn.
only some greedy and horny men (without any moral scruples!) - who want to make much money.

you attacked me personally - your little problem is - you are very aggressiv.

we can have different opinions on this topic or in general - i can live with that.

 

thumbs up!

 

haha yes my thought excactly

@sunbro you are right .. porn was not always present.. my bad, wasn't thinking. Not in this crystalized form, that humans use today.

Like mumchance said you two are talking about two sides of the same cheet.
We all know freedom is a good thing, but extremes lead to bad outcomes. (somehow this reminds me of a quote from starwars or something)
I was also radical with opinions about conspiracy theories. But i slowly become aware that the world is overall chaotic. Our World is a huge system overflown with chaotic behaviours and one may try to simplify this constelation of gears by seeking for a motor far behind all of this. Sorry didn't want to cross to the religous part of this all... but anyway... humans want to understand things and if they can't, all they see is magic and wonders.
The human brain is slowly discovered. The gears are slowly revealed and we slowly learn how all of our behaviours work.

Is it realy that hard to just say: ok... it may be a great plan to use porn for someone's interest, or it may be just a coincidence.
After all it doesen't realy matter right?

We discovered that Porn is a dangerous medium that alters the human brain for it's disadvantage.
Shouldn't we all just accept this and move on?

 

(Bows) I am sorry for the inconvenience. I wish you all the best of luck with your journeys.

 

€: have read your post a bit wrong the first time..

Anyway i wish it to you too.

 

I think it is pointless to dwell on whether masturbation is good or bad. What good does it do you to wonder if other people have a problem or not? Only I can diagnose ME. I know I have a problem based on MY experience. People ultimately have to come to their own conclusions. If a person can down a bottle of wine and fap 3 times a day, who am I to say they aren't happy. Until they realize that they aren't happy, it just seems pointless to make assumptions. Interventions, for example, are pointless if said individual is in complete denial. Maybe they come away with some awareness that help is available. But they still have to make the diagnosis.

 

I'm not sure if you want an honest answer or are just trying to get the thread back on topic, but: the Jews follow lots of rules written about in their holy book, and thus lived hygienic and healthily before scientists had even figured out washing your hands before eating was a good thing to do. I thought perhaps fapping was mentioned in the Torah, but I don't actually think so.
I'm sorry if you think it derailed from the topic.