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Why are some people addicted to this genre?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by BrSweat, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. BrSweat

    BrSweat Fapstronaut

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    cuckold genre/IR p specifically

    Trying to understand the psychology behind it bc it's everywhere now. I've been into this for a while now and worried I may never be attracted to regular p or real girls again as I did when I was a kid. This shit is truly brainwashing
     
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  2. modernstore99

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    It'll come back. A proper reboot and rewire can do a ton.

    Worrying about the psychology makes the urges stronger and more frequent. I suggest avoiding thinking about them until you're many months past a reboot and rewire. No need to worry about it during the present
     
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  3. BrSweat

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    I hope so many and yeah I think you're right. Figuring it out now wont do any good
     
  4. loneloan

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    According to Joesph from the Journal of Cosmology,its because our ape\hominid ancestors had sex out in the open and thus, each ape would see other presumably bigger,stronger apes copulating with the female hominid. So gradually the brain absorbed that context.
    of course this may be just bad science or psychology. But at least its my answer to the question.
     
  5. BrSweat

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    So those apes gave their females to the bigger apes? Is that what it just comes down to? A bigger penis?
     
  6. loneloan

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    no,they merely witnessed the act even if they dont like it. they probably were forced to hang around somehow or had morbose interest.
    Anyways that explains the why, its still an enemy to strike that,that type of lust.
     
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  7. I admit I have a problem with cuck porn - fantasizes of my wife fucking other men while I would watch. The fantasies center around men with large, hard, powerful cocks. IN particular, Black men fucking my wife. I do not know where this idea come from inside me, but it has a powerful effect to arouse me.
     
  8. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    Is my fetish porn-induced?

    Why did my porn use escalate?

    I’m straight, but attracted to transsexual or gay porn (or gay attracted to straight porn). What’s up?

    The science is still in the air, but consensus right now points to activities and themes that are shocking and anxiety-inducing heightening arousal. This is most commonly seen in straight men who are more aroused by gay or trans porn, but this is often disregarded as closeted or closed-minded men refusing to acknowledge their sexuality. However, evidence of straight women getting hooked on gay porn (male-male) and gay men getting hooked on straight porn almost nails the coffin. Novel, shocking sexual stimuli seems to be very addictive, and results in the aforementioned phenomena.

    Now I don't think that any researchers have looked into the interracial aspect, but I think it can be extrapolated. If certain racial situations give you anxiety or unease, they could be heightening your arousal. Sensitizing to porn in those genres will make it seem normal and other genres less appealing.

    This can be a hard pill to swallow for some guys (and girls!). If you are not racist, then why does interracial porn seem sooooo much more exciting than regular porn?

    I struggled with this too. Instead of thinking of yourself as racist, think of yourself as having some weakness in this area of your life. I didn't grow up around a lot of black people, and really only saw them playing aggressive sports or on the news when they commit crimes, ofc I won't have the best opinion of them. Instead of just sitting in that mindset though, I try to make myself better everyday. I don't have any black friends, likely due to environmental factors, but I'm much more comfortable and thoughtful around them than I was when I started rebooting. The reboots and personal growth have likely been the primary reason for this issue being negligible for me today.

    Unfulfilling and negative life experiences often reflect in porn addiction, so try to straighten up those areas of your life when rebooting. You don't need to publicly praise interracial couples, you don't need to pay reparations, you don't need to date a certain race. Make decisions that make yourself proud, and when you don't, sit with the guilt, think about how you could do better next time, and then execute.
     
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  9. modernstore99

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    Yeah the studies documenting straight women getting hooked on male-male porn and gay men getting hooked on straight porn is going to be the tipping point that pushes porn abuse into the mainstream. Straight dudes definitely suffer the worse, but as more women and LGBTQ people get hooked, it'll become more mainstream.

    In Gary Wilson's Ted Talk, he notes that the biggest issue with porn abuse studies is that there's no control group; there's no concentrated population of Western men whose lives are just like others except the don't use porn. People with religious or social beliefs aren't reliable as control groups because many secretly use porn and don't tell, and people who absolutely don't use porn like the Amish can't be used as control because their lifestyles are very different compared to average men.

    Porn addiction did not get included in the latest DSM (which American doctors and researchers use to get funding), but it can be classified under the latest ICD, opening the door for study in other countries. It will be slow, but as more people start suffering from porn, countries will begin to notice and try to change.

    In the meantime though, get ahead of the pack. At the very least, quitting porn will make you stronger and more disciplined. I don't think you should be screaming it from the rooftops, but girls really like to hear "I don't watch porn because I want to enjoy my time with you". You'll probably have better sex. There aren't any studies on it but if you only cum with a girl, you're probably going to be cumming more, and girls very much enjoy that haha. I've also noticed that over time, I seem to have more control of how quick I cum during sex, and I think it's because I don't jerk it ever.

    Porn is like any drug in my opinion, and you're going to live a happier and more functional life if you can it. Even if society can't get on board, do it yourself so that you're punching above your weight when it comes to relationships, discipline, your career, and your health.
     
  10. lostguy

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    I think it's just because, when you add elements of taboos, danger, or anxiety, you add chemicals like adrenaline to the mix, as well as releasing a whole lot more dopamine. I don't think your brain really knows the difference.
     
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  11. I agree - I don't need studies to tell you how hard I get chatting about my wife and thinking about her with other men. It has to do with the taboo nature of the activity.
     
  12. I've thought about this topic deeply. Imagine we had never seen a pornographic video before. When we are children, or when we first start feeling sexual feelings in our teenage years, do we imagine a girl we like with another man? No, we don't.

    We are becoming a mirror image of the things we are viewing in a way. Think about it like this: if you watch a movie about a baseball player who is really into baseball and goes through all this struggle and ends up winning a championship game.... then you are going to be more interested in baseball for a little while. Maybe you will even begin watching baseball games for a week or you will go outside and play baseball with friends because you are motivated by the movie.

    A strange thing happened to me a few years ago. I watched a movie with Tom Cruise about him playing pool. Like the game with a big table and knocking the balls into the pockets. Interestingly, after watching that movie, I went to a bar with a couple friends shortly after. And there were pool tables there. We played pool.... and I played the best games of pool in my life. I did really well. And this is because I had just previously watched the movie about a guy playing pool. I was in a way mimicking what I saw in the movie.

    The same thing happens if we watch like mafia movies like the Godfather. Or American Gangster. I have noticed after watching these movies that my thoughts will change a little bit, I might feel more daring, maybe a little more confident or daring.

    But you see, the same thing happens with pornography. When we are watching porn, we are pretty much watching a woman be the center of attention. How does that translate to us? We are now viewing a movie about a woman doing sexual things. So we start to think like that a little bit.

    Whereas in the past we may have watched a movie about a guy playing baseball and became inspired to play baseball. Now, when watching porn, we are watching a movie about a woman having sex with men, and therefore, we are wanting to be like that in a way.

    Just look at all the posts about guys addicted to "sissy programming porn", or straight guys who have started to watch gay porn or have HOCD (homosexual obsessive compulsive disorder), asking themselves if they are gay or not.

    So, I just think we are programming ourselves when we watch porn to be like a female prostitute. Simple as that.

    How to escape this? Do other stuff, watching new types of movies. Read spiritual books. Watch a sports movie. Put new perceptions into your mind
     
  13. Dr.J_76ers

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    That's an interesting argument and I feel like it has a basis in the reports of others along with contemporary neuroscience. I've seen several posts about people watching too much porn, and you know usually we think of it in terms of being the man, but because we are extremely bored after watching too much, sometimes, people will switch to the perspective of the woman, which, obviously given the "taboo" nature of this idea, increases sexual arousal and has the capability of taking a person down the sissy porn rabbithole.

    I've also read some about the brain's neuroplasticity recently. And from my limited understanding, conditioning (aka the movie or the pornography) briefly changes certain pathways in the brain. A memory in a physical sense is at least attached to the activation of a set of interconnected neurons distributed through several parts of the brain. This activation first happens when we watch the movie and encode the memory. I think what's key is that there is probably a link between our memories and our sense of self. So perhaps if you watch a bunch of Al Pacino movies, you're gonna feel more confident for a longer duration (lol). But the thing is given the sexual nature of any type of porn, we are motivated to come back to this stimulus repetitively, and if we do then this memory is going to be reactivated and strengthened. And when this happens, synapses literally get bigger and have more neurotransmitters released along with additional receptors, so obviously you're strengthening the memory you created when the stimulus was introduced. Every time a porn addict thinks about his or her fetish they will strengthen the pathways related to this memory. And some scientists believe that memory molds personality, so pornography could have a huge "programming" effect like you claim.
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    I think the main takeaway from this is that one should minimize fantasy of the porn/fetish/sexually arousing thoughts during recovery. And personally I think I've had my best success doing this by trying to be in touch with reality as much as possible (and staying out of my room).

    Also the the "higher areas" of the brain which are the most related to personality are said to be plastic throughout life. So I think there's hope for an addict at any stage of life.
     
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