I have been thinking maybe I'm not where I should physically be but spiritually I’m where i should be, and I’m in spiritual conflict. I think this is why a lot of guys deal with pmo. Spiritually we are trying our best, reading our Bible and going to church. Yet physically we should be married to a woman or even two! And be popping out kids and working to support our families. But instead we are trying in vain to carve our own path and giving into pmo to fill spiritual voids. Anyone else have these type of thoughts?
I am not sure I follow your thinking here. Why should we be married and having children? (And where is it considered a good thing to have two wives?) If we are fooling around with PMO, we are not all right spiritually. We first need to address the issue in our own hearts before we are prepared to be any help to a wife or children.
Well bro, men had multiple wife’s throughout the Old Testament to satisfy desires. Read the Song of Solomon. Yes thing is our bodies are made for sexual satisfaction. I agree on the spiritual side we are not prepared for family life when we are into pmo but physically we are ready. So maybe i got that part mixed up.
What i man is that i think any guy wants sex instead of pmo, so if i had a wife pmo would not be a thing. Even though i know guys in there who have that problem. What if i wanted to pmo at 14 and my dad said don’t do that get married instead and I got married and had sex. Then spiritually I’m fine because my physical pmo desire is not there because i can have sex with my wife
I disagree with this , porn addicts usually prefer porn than sex , just read about all the married people on here who are unable to get aroused by their partners but are able to spend days consuming porn . Also in all cases we use PMO to cope with some deeper issue we have . What is this issue , this is where our problem lies . I fully agree with Tao , If we are an addict and get married we are still an addict , and now we are at risk at destroying the life of the person we are married to . I would suggest quitting porn before even thinking about marriage
What about getting married before pmo even becomes an issue? I Desiree sex with a wife much more than pmo
That is objectively wrong , porn is a super stimuli of sex , if given a choice the addicted brain will always choose porn no matter if u have a partner or not. This is just an example of grass is greener on the other side . Just look at the countless examples of married people on these forums . Before making your mistake try learning from the mistakes of others. And u know that even if u are married u won't have sex on demand while porn will always be easier to access. I just don't see how you thinks that will work out
What if i lived on an island or in a rainforest tribe with a wife and no internet or contact with modern society? You see what I’m getting at? I’m trying to figure out what’s wrong with us and how we as humans lived for thousands of years with pmo
What's wrong with us is the sin in our hearts that causes us to tend to choose to go our own way, even when it hurts ourselves and others. Even if you lived in a primitive tribe, you would not escape sin. I believe the only rescue we have from that is Jesus himself.
But we are not living on an island or a rainforest with a tribe . If this is your point go to one of the tribes that are currently living like that and join them. If u are an addict and get married u are now an married addict. Congratulations now u made your spouses life worse instead of improving it.
You are taking your lust, your sin, your covetousness, and trying to justify it and give free reign to such lust upon women, and justifying polygamy in the process. In this state, it would be better for you not to marry. "You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions" (James 4:2-3). Men took multiple wives in the Old Testament and that was a sinful act. The great depravity that came after the Fall is highlighted in Genesis 4 by noting Lamech, a man who arrogantly took two wives rather than being content with one, and threatened to murder those who got in his way. It is written in Genesis 1:24, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." It is clear from that statement that God's intention is for man to have only one wife. Laws concerning Israel's king even stipulate that they may not have many wives, see Deuteronomy 17:17---this is the very thing which lead to Solomon's downfall. The New Testament clearly states that for one to serve as an elder in the church he must be "the husband of one wife/a man of one woman" (Titus 1:6, see also 1 Timothy 3:2 which says the exact same thing). Jesus also said that divorce was permitted in the Old Testament period (and polygamy fits a similar category, I would argue), "Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so" (Matthew 19:8). I encourage you to read the whole passage: Matthew 19:3-12.
Don't feel like getting into a polygamy debate at the moment (in a ancient Biblical context, it had more to do with providing a covering for women than sex), nor should that be the focus. Marriage is a natural desire having a righteous companion is a blessing, certainly. However, in my experience, the key to overcoming this is clearing our minds of ALL desires, and being made complete and content by the Most High. Dying to self, neglecting my desires, even if they are not sinful. Lamentations 3:24 KJV [24] The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; Therefore will I hope in Him. Psalm 23:1 KJV [1] The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Also there is this. Now... definitely cut off the pmo, but... 1 Corinthians 7:1–2 (ESV): Principles for Marriage 7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:8–9 (ESV): 8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. 9 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
