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What do you consider healthy?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Characterquit1, Dec 16, 2022.

  1. Characterquit1

    Characterquit1 Fapstronaut

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  2. I see it as a slippery slope. In my own experience, the more often I M/O, regardless of porn use, the less self control I have afterwards. Meaning less self control in resisting porn and masturbation later. The more you do something, the easier it is to do the next time. The body & mind adapt to what we choose to do with it. We make choices, but over time we automate our conscious actions. This is habit formation.

    Less self control means giving up my will. What makes me human. The ability to choose. My body is then essentially hijacked by something else (urges, physiological reactions). Whether it is 'healthy' for the body is besides the point. ("What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his soul?") If I lose my self control, my will, my ability to choose in the process, I lose that which makes me human.

    That said, ejaculation doesn't happen in a vacuum. Ejaculating in what context? With your wife? That is a good thing, as it is in the context of giving to another human being, not just taking for myself. To porn? That is merely selfish consumption; we know what that does, and it isn't good.

    So for me, the question isn't What Frequency of Ejaculation is Healthy?
    The question is What Actions Strengthen/Weaken the Will?
     
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  3. Characterquit1

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    I am sure there is a sense of accomplishment when resisting some thing that you believe is harmful.

    I just completed my first week in normal mode.

    But to me keeping so much bottled in is harmful as well.

    To me it is more harmful than pmo
     
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    “This blog post is for educational purposes only and does not constitute medical or other professional advice.”

    That’s good b/c it doesn’t cite any actual evidence to back it up.

    I’m all for regular ejaculations. But do it with your partner rather than Five Finger Death Grip.
     
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  5. That is why we are called to be productive and create something with our hands.
    Someone once described it as this: Human beings were made for creative expression. Men , especially, in the physical realm. To create something tangible. This is the God-like image we are all imbued with.
    With porn/masturbation, this creative power and energy is misdirected inwards. Life becomes about consumption. Not creation.
    When we are caught in porn/masturbation/any controlling addictive behaviour, we are essentially spiritually OBESE from overconsumption. AKA ineffectual and unhealthy and dying on the inside. (explains why we feel so stuck in the addiction. How can the obese move freely?)

    The hint that the creative power is misdirected, and not what is actually supposed to be, is that we feel drained, ineffective, shame afterwards (some try to numb the conscience/shame, to prove otherwise. That is like ignoring the dashboard lights in your car. It bides you time for a while, but not long before things get messy).
    When we create, we feel energized, meaningful, with purpose. Time flies. You feel wholesome excitement.

    Our lives were not made for ourselves. If we are merely consumed with how many days we have/haven't masturbated, we have a very low vision of ourselves and what we can become.
    I am not saying this as if I am better in any way, and I hope this doesn't come across as that, but as something I need to remind myself too. We are made for more. Find something you enjoy doing and create! :)
    take care
     
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  6. Kierann

    Kierann Fapstronaut

    With all respect in my point of view ejaculation itself is not as important as the myths in the world of sperm retention suggest. I'm not really buying that much into retaining sperm as it is so incredibly full of nutrients that make me so strong and beautiful.

    Don't get me wrong, I am trying to abstain from all forms of sexual behaviour, especially pmo because I believe that it is draining my lifeforce for no good reason and at the same time I'm indulging in highly addictive behaviour.

    But I don't think that an ejaculation is the main culprit here. I think it's mostly about for how long you're exposed to highly addictive feel-good hormones.

    If you're edging for twelve hours and still not ejaculating, ejaculation itself for obvious reasons becomes meaningless.

    And for the same reasons I'm not buying into all that sex without ejsculation jazz either. Because that kind of sex I could also have for hours with all those hormones unnaturally high for virtually unlimited period of time.
     
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    You claim "When we create, we feel energized, meaningful, with purpose."

    What about those of us who are better off relaesing that tension and anxiety in order to get some good sleep so we can be energized with purpose the next day?

    To each is own I guess
     
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    Why do you say that?

    We need that relief.

    Do you think the relationship to sleep is bad science?
     

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