Mmmh interesting. I think that you're probably right, as I'm playing with fire these days, stress overwhelming my life. What was surprising here is that it was absolutely definitely sexual, but now that I think about it I actually felt nothing, not even embarrassment other than second-hand embarrassment for my Lady - in that I think you're very right Thackeray, thank you for answering -, and woke up being very startled not to have been aroused. Really odd. After all I think that it affected my dopamine levels in the way that I am testing my own limits these days due to what's happening in my life and so some kind of sexual frustration comes out but as I'm not definitely not really looking for a true sexual relief the only way my brain finds out to deal with it is to show me sexual pictures without looking for a reward. Haha, quite a topic. Sorry. Anyway I definitely believe that reboot isn't going to happen in 9 months. Not even in a year or two, not even in five - see Adam in Thanks for Sharing for instance. It would be quite interesting to have opinions of guys who have rebooted since several years already. Does they still have wet dreams? Or can someone who NEVER was addicted still have some? I'm thinking for example of teenagers entering puberty. I recall having had wet dreams when I didn't even suspected that porn and masturbation even existed.
Gambling, drugs, porn/masturbation, cigarettes, caffeine. Avoid anything addictive that is really the only safe way.
Hm interesting. How old were you first WD you had? Since it was sexual, you must have been influenced by some kind of erotic stimuli or? I think a few wet dreams for teenagers are quite normal. But if they occur frequently - then it becomes a problem. A big problem. 5 years to reboot? Extreme case? I think we will continue to see benefits for maybe ten years, but i have read about the most severe cases (people masturbating from early childhood to mid 20's) and they report at least a great deal of improvement after 1.5-2years. I would like to read that persons story.
Haha, was a joke. But I have read a lot about caffeine effects on sleep, scary. And people who quit caffeine report better sleep, feeling more energetic. Also massive coffee drinkers have terribly bad sleep, even if they don't know it. Their sleep is not as refreshing as it should be and they wake up frequently, often without knowing it.
What rubbish, Clumsy. Try living in a country where the first question out of everyone's mouths is "Would you like a cup of tea." Tea is a healthy drink actually. http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/04/13-reasons-to-love-tea/ All things in moderation.
like you mentioned gambling needs money - plenty of money. i was heavily addicted to weed - about 8 years. snoop dogg was my idol. no just kidding. we (my clique and me) smoked weed and played videogames like lunatic. that was the sense in our lives. smoking and videogames. i like this forum - everyone is addicted. i dont feel alone.
I drink green tea sometimes, but I prefer to avoid caffeine in any form. I ate some chocolate a few minutes ago though.
I would not be able to live without tea... English breakfast is the first drink I reach for in the morning.
I don't remember quite well but what I'm absolutely certain of is that it started around my puberty. I first had my periods at 11 so I was pretty early mature sexually. Well when I was a child and teenager I was extremely, almost sickly chaste. Like, I'm serious, you absolutely couldn't talk to me about even PUBERTY. I learned how to make babies in an ENCYCLOPAEDIA. AT 11. I still am but not that much, porn addiction quite have helped haha. So no, I guess I haven't had any "erotic" stimuli, as in consciously erotic. Anything can be erotic when you think about it, when your hormones are kicking hard. I didn't knew it was sexual then; I remember finding some stuff on my undies after when waking up and I remember feeling very good sometimes but it absolutely wasn't conscious. It definitely wasn't frequent. But for me it shows that they occur when sexual tension hits a peak. In the film Tanks for Sharing which I'd advise you to see as it is quite pleasant and not too triggering except if you're very picky, (beware spoiler!) [NSFW]Adam relapse after being 5 years free and fully rebooted.[/NSFW] I got depressed when I saw this. Is there really a life-long cure? Can you REALLY be free for life? Let's say I'll live until I'm 100 years old. I still have 80 years to live with resisting every urges. It seems quite long. Again I only had two years of addiction and I started late at 17.
Almost, I'm poor and it's hard for me to buy expensive, healthy food. I try to eat healthy but where I live, healthy foods are a lot more expensive.
Sorry for flooding but I concur. As a 60000 euros in debt art student, living in London, wanting to start a healthy life is a nightmare became true. Let's try not to diverge to much from the original topic guys! The Offtopic section is here for this kind of discussion!
That's the troubling reality that we face today... Healthy, wholesome foods are usually twice, three times as much as processed, packaged foods. Part of the reason why people living in poverty tend to be overweight.
I will watch that film. I don't think it's a lifelong addiction, I think it's important to work on the mind. You've to really hate PMO and not see relapse as an option. Even if the urges are there, which I'm sure most of us will conquer, the mental and physical benefits will show up and stay.
I don't want this to turn into a passionate debate but I would like to propose my way of seeing it. I often found myself thinking that the reason I quit PMO was not because I was hating it. I loved it too much. It's a reality, don't you think? Why would I want to watch porn if I hated it? One of my favourite sentences in the world is "sugar tastes sweet and porn feels good". For me it means that yes, porn feels good; it brings orgasms, which is the most physically pleasant experience one could feel - at least in my experience. Where you're definitely right though, and where I agree, is that the feelings pornography and masturbation brings, with all the flaws due to a waste of time, depression, etc etc, this is what has to be avoided. Also, I don't like the idea of hating in itself. I think that when you hate the hater, you become the hater... and you lose. To avoid, though, is beneficial. That's also what I try to explain when I say "forgive don't forget". I believe it's better to gently move on, to ignore and avoid the subject of the addiction, rather to erect (pun pun pun) it into a statue or idol of Evil to hate. That is also why getting healthier addictions helped a great deal for me. It doesn't prevent me from thinking that relapse is not an option; as a matter of fact I'll never relapse; but rather than thinking that I will never do it because I HATE porn, I do it because I love it TOO MUCH. And I consider that everything it brought me and continue to bring me since I've quite make me happier than the state I was in when I was masturbating and watching pornography. By no means does it means that your approach is less valuable. In terms of addiction quitting I believe that it's like for weight-loss: there's as many methods than there are people in this big world.
You are right. But always think about the consequences of PMO. Is it really worth it? Orgasm is seconds of pleasure but in excesses, results in months of sorrow. I always think of that if I feel the urge. "I will masturbate, I will ejaculate after a minute or two, I will feel true pleasure for a couple of seconds and then I will crash" and that has helped me a lot. You are right about hatred. I try not to hate, but I cannot help it. Seeing documentaries about the pornographic industry might help too, because people are working under absolute horrible conditions, though most of these documentaries are heavy triggers. Also, to occupy the mind is essential. Always have something to do, if the urge sets in. I used to call my mama when I felt the urge and then it would disappear! Replacing an addiction with another addiction might help in start but wont work in the long run. I strive for an addictive-free life. Anyways, good post!
