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Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by DDarms, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. DDarms

    DDarms New Fapstronaut

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    To all the fapstronauts reading this post- it's going to be a long one.

    My journey into the world of nofap has been one of constant ups and downs, with lots of relapses and binges. It all started during July of 2012 on a late 2:00am night in a cramped dorm in Beijing; I was studying Wushu at the Capital Institute of Physical Education, enjoying the afterglow of a PMO session and browsing through a plethora of random articles on HuffPost and scanning the internet when I decided to visit one of Simplepickup's forums just for kicks. (This was back before they got really big and started doing the publicity prank videos with the random girls and whatnot) It was late at night, I was out alone in a foreign country, there were lots of girls to pick up and I wouldn't have to wake up for class until 11:00am the next day, so i thought 'Meh, why not?' As I scanned through the topics on the links, a single thread popped up that caught my eye that was simply titled: "your brain on porn". I was intrigued, and decided to click it.

    That one click changed my life.

    Honestly, I'm no stranger to self-improvement. I recovered from a bout of deep depression brought on by familial and social issues back in December 2011 with the help of my brother, an eye-opening shroom trip and a healthy dose of PUA material. I made a rehab plan afterwards to haul my ass out of depression and was ultimately successful, setting a list of new-years resolutions and filling almost all of them out by the end of 2012, but before that trip to Beijing I had never heard of nofap.

    What I read sounded too good to be true, but at the same time scary. Increased self-confidence, social clarity, a physical and mental boost in energy, etc. just by stopping jacking off was like the perfect deal, the only problem being that I was still fapping like madman at least 3 times a week at the time and was binging sometimes for hours at a time whenever I had some source of wifi. Long story short I ended my 2 and a half week study in Beijing vowing to stop touching porn and my dick at the same time for the next 100 days, succeeding for the next 84 but ultimately failing when tempted by the prospect of a new HD iPad screen and fast unlimited wifi in Singapore. That was my longest period without PMO and I have since to break the record.

    As for the last year and a half?

    I have gotten a girlfriend, competed in martial arts competitions, expanded my social circle, taken up calisthenics, improved my social skills and finally lost my virginity at 16 years old to the girl of my dreams. Not bad for the 5' 3 Asian kid from Jakarta.

    But I have also gotten more addicted to porn, started and stopped a bunch of nofap trials and neglected my self improvement journey for the past 2 months after failing a 56 day period of no PMO.

    I am far from where I started but I am scared to go back. I am slipping and I need help. As of the writing of this thread I just finished another PMO session after promising myself I would stop again and again after two weeks of constant late night binging for hours on end. It's exam week, I need sleep, my body is deteriorating and porn seems to be the source of all my problems and a ridiculously clingy devil to get rid of. It is nearing new years and my new resolution is to get my life back on track again, college is coming up next year (I'm a high school senior) and I want to be the best man I can be by the time I get pushed out into the big bad world of what is supposed to be the next stage of my life.

    Ideally I would like to start a journal, socialize with all the other people involved in the struggle on this forum, drop whatever little knowledge I have to help others, take whatever useful is given and basically grow along with the community. I cannot thank whoever started the NoFap enough because it has given me the extra testosterone filled push for the times I needed to haul ass on the road to self-improvement, and wish the best of luck to all who read this post, whatever day they are on.


    Signing out,
    Daniel
     
  2. William

    William Fapstronaut

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    Hi Dainel, welcome.

    If you went 56 days PMO free, fantastic, (same with 86) you can do it again. I have seen a lot of guys go 90, and then the urge is gone forever, at least the urge you think you cannot beat. I am PMO free for 5 months, I am quit, I still get an urge, but much weaker and days between. I don't PMO, but I also have learned that in the beginning my dopamine drenched brain would make me feel like total shit to try and get me to use P again.

    Three things: Get educated, use tools, and expect withdrawals.

    Education. To beat the problem you have to understand the problem. Watch this vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_RIm9ZMN1I

    I came to understand my brain had a problem. My brain loves dopamine. Best drug in the history of the universe. Dopamine is released to encourage us to eat and to have sex. When it comes to porn, our brain, specifically our brain's primitive chemical reward center, cannot tell porn from sex. It rewards both equally. But unlike sex, porn is free, effortless, easy, limitless, available 23/7, and so the brain comes to reward porn over sex, by the release of dopamine and other reward chemicals. With sex, if you are lucky, you get a dopamine rush a few times a week, but with porn, you can get that rush, in a few minutes, every day, multiple times if you want it. At the worst of my addiction I was PMOing every day, more than once. Once you understand what porn has done to those pathways you can work to rewire them back. It can be done, but it takes effort. Too many guys here think of quitting porn as a passive event, just not doing it. I tried and failed that way too. To be successful you have to get proactive; you can't just sit around "not doing it", you have to take steps to stop it. Porn is the problem. Porn is seeing it, thinking of it, watching it, edging to it, PMOing, remembering it, imagining it, and using porn substitutes (non porn that still triggers dopamine release). So, when quitting, don't just stop, do something about it. Use tools. Take control.

    Tools. Posting here is a tool. It allows me to reeducate myself about my addiction. Reading posts and replying help me, so thank you for posting. Also, porn blockers. Yes, they can be gotten around, but that extra few seconds they slow you down gives you a moment to stop, ponder what you are doing (quitting), and NOT move on to the problem. There are other tools that other guys use here, so get educated about your options. Don't just say you are quitting, but do things that make yourself feel you are taking charge of the situation, that porn is not in control anymore, you are.

    Withdrawals. These suck. There are why guys fail and get into that cycle of failing over and over and over. Withdrawals are your dopamine drenched brain betting, pleading, threatening, and punishing you for not giving it the dopamine release that porn causes. The pain will be mental, emotional, and physical. You mentioned jealousy. That is a rationalization. Rationalizations come with withdrawals. That is your brain trying to talk you into PMOing again, telling you why its OK, why its justified, why you deserve it. Punishing ourselves or others in our lives is a common rationalization for PMO relapse. The thing about withdrawals is they totally suck, and they take us to a place where we say, if this is how I am going to feel without PMO, I don't want to live this way. But, they will not last. It sucks to go through them, but it is necessary to go through them. You will not get from where you are to PMO free without going through them, so I came to embrace the idea of suffering through the withdrawal, of wanting it, of wanting to suffer through it. The thing is, once your brain quits trying to convince you to give it a dopamine rush, and accepts its going back to normal pre porn dopamine levels, it gets way better. Once your brain is back to normal, that is only rewarding the things it is meant to reward, the withdrawals go away. It won't happen in a day, but I see guys staying PMO free for over 11 days who begin to look forward to a PMO free life, and not backward, wanting the PMO release.

    Good luck on your journey. Thanks for helping me by giving me the opportunity to respond.

    Peace.
     
  3. You_Can_Do_lt

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    What a thoughful post from such a young guy. Kudos to you for taking on this challenge. Because you've been on this road for awhile and havent given up, I'd challenge you to stop viewing any slip-ups as failures and see them for what they should be - chances to learn and grow.

    Each slip happens for a reason. There are triggers you have that can range from boredom to built up stress that hasnt been dealt with properly. Porn is your outlet and your escape from these things.

    Triggers lead to rationalization. For me, if I don't stop a trigger by analyzing why I feel a certain way, and it turns to rationalizing a PMO session, it's too late for me. I have to be hyper-vigilant in what I'm thinking about and doing.

    I'm going to see attractive girls, and my mind will begin on its path to lustful thoughts - that is a given. I am not trying to stop that completely because that's foolish. What I CAN do is decide how I react to these triggers. Will I dwell on them and begin to fantasize or will I decide to create new habits for how to react? The choice is mine, and the choice is yours.

    I have nurtured PMO for 20 years; growing it up from a simple childish toy into a supernatural beast that controls me. I can't expect to defeat this thing (that knows me so well!) in one sitting, or in one day, or even in one year. It's going to take time to tear this thing down, brick by brick.

    And I'm going to do it, too. One day at a time. Every day, this monster does everything in its power to coerce, manipulate, lie, cheat, and rationalize its way back into my life. And I cant say no to it for the rest of my life. That's just not possible for me. But I CAN say no to it today, and hopefully I can do the dame tomorrow.

    For me, it's exactly the same as the story of a man who was an alcoholic and could not stop drinking. He knew he had to stop, but he just couldnt. His sponsor asked him, "Can you commit to not having a drop of alcohol for a year?"

    "No way, not a chance," said the alcoholic.

    The sponsor said, "Well how about a month, or even just a week?"

    "I MIGHT be able to do a week," he replied.

    "OK, then how about just today?"

    "Sure. I can do today, if I really set my mind to it," said the alcoholic.

    "Good, then I'll ask you the same question tomorrow."

    So the true question is, can you quit for today?
     

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