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Uncertain Proposal?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by WoundedHealer, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. WoundedHealer

    WoundedHealer Fapstronaut

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    I'm not sure if this post belongs here...

    I just spent five days with my girlfriend and her family and friends for the Thanksgiving / Black Friday weekend, and I finally went out and got a ring.

    However, due to the fact that I need to resize it, I ended up not proposing on this trip, and am taking it back home with me (to propose at a later date).

    Here's my dilemma though: I think that I'm scared of commitment because:
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    While she was checking something "down there" in her parents' living room, I got half a view of her unshaven pubic area... She doesn't shave "down there" and I worry that looking at p for years has made me feel disgusted with that... (that's why I'm trying to reboot).

    (b) I keep getting distracted by other women... Half of me knows that's she's beautiful. The other part of me looks at women of other nationalities and thinks: (i) what if I was with that one, or with that mixed one... (ii) Part of me wishes that she'd dress in tighter clothes so that my attention wouldn't be turned to those who are wearing them... (iii) Also, she doesn't like wearing heels... which has been a major source of attraction (I'm a leg guy)

    (c) On the other hand. I love her personality. We have a ton of fun together, and her parents have told me that in the last year with me, they've never seen her happier. We talk for at least an hour every night, and she's laughing so much more than she ever did. She's also smiling a lot and is a lot happier than she's ever been.

    (d) I also think she looks gorgeous when she smiles. And she also knows me deep enough that the little things barely bother her. (Like, I'll try and fail to hold in a fart in her presence, and she laugh, and just let it go... while I'll run to the other side of the room when she let's a silent one loose). Last night, she fell asleep on my shoulder while we were trying to play a co-op game on the PS4...

    So... what do I make of this dilemma?
    She's like totally my best friend, and throughout my entire time with her, I didn't feel tempted to look at p one bit.

    I did meet all of her female cousins, and one of them was super-bubbly and pretty... and very interested in talking with me... and it kills me that I was so interested in talking with her back...

    Part of me tells myself that I compartmentalize things... because:
    (a) I'm on my way home after a super-long "I'll miss you. I love you" goodbye... and I know that one of the first things I'm gonna be tempted to do is go online... Gah...

    I really want to marry her.
    But how do I stop my roving eyes... and more specifically, how do I make myself satisfied that I chose the right one.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. DrDreadnought

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    I don't have any real experience in marriage, but I suppose that if it feels right, then do it. What I do know is that I've never been told by a someone in marriage that it's easy. There are lows and highs but I imagine that the highs are is unbelievably better than the lows.

    I think a reference to Good Will Hunting may work here: it's not the perfect person or the perfect relationship you're looking for, it's the perfect person for you.

    That's just my two cents though, I don't even have any more that I can give
     
  3. douggie1962

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    Brother, you are experiencing the moments of doubt that every potential married man experiences to some degree. This woman sounds AWESOME!!!! There are so many men on this site still searching for the One - and from the way you describe this beautiful woman, you have found yours. She is a real woman who loves you, and is prepared to take your name as hers. What an honor she is prepared to give to you - and this is why you must eliminate porn from your life. Porn is as fake as fake can get - those people in porn are not happy, they are the abused, the stricken, and the desperate. They demean themselves for profit and they are searching for just an ounce of what you are preparing to claim. Your bride-to-be is far superior to any image on a screen.
    Given that you have not seen her nude before, this woman sounds to be very traditional - both physically and traditionally. If you play your cards right, she will bless you with children, and years of real intimacy, and companionship. Make yourself worthy and win this battle.

    We can do this.

    Be Strong My Friend.
     
  4. Venom1

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    Inside of her is what counts the most.
     
  5. Secondchanceatlife

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    Trust me dude. If the love and friendship as there, when you get rid of porn for good you will start to see how truly beautiful she is and realize how screwed up porn has made your brain. Those bouncing eyes and thoughts are all heavily reinforced by pmo addiction. Quit it and the goddess of a woman will be revealed to you. You think your lady is beautiful now, just wait. She gonna knock your socks off.
     
  6. I think of this dilemma sometimes. I feel ashamed for preferring a hairless vulva to a bushy one, because they are supposed to be bushy. Like, if someone asked me to shave my pubic hair I would probably tell them to gtfo! Porn has certainly caused me to have this preference - an unrealistic one just like everything else porn shoves at you.
    I think that once I finally see my naked wife in all her glorious glory, I won't care that she has a bush down there, I will probably love it actually. Deep down, I think I really know that that is the way it is meant to be. I think you will feel similarly if you marry her. Sex is much deeper than physical contact anyway.

    I can relate with this, in a way. I'm not in a relationship, so it's not as obvious, but I feel like I need to be loyal to my future girlfriend. I don't want to lust after girls because that would be like cheating on my future wife, just in my mind. It is hard sometimes.
    That said, I don't know how it would be like to experience this in a real relationship. It must feel bad. A good idea is to do the 'girlfriend test'; If she knew what you were thinking, would she be impressed? If not, banish the thought. You can make it habit to banish unclean thoughts, such is the nature of neuroplasticity. You can't help finding other women attractive - they are just attractive. It is how you deal with it that counts. As for wanting her to dress a certain way, I'd say this comes from the former porn-addict part of your brain. She is her own master, you shouldn't get to dictate what she wears. Like I said above though, I think you will grow to love her body more and more if you do get married.

    Very good! :) If her parents, who know her very well, have never seen her happier, you are probably a good spouse to her.

    That's good! Holding in millions of farts across the course of your marriage might get tiring ;)

    You must think she is worth it then. :)

    Do you like talking to interesting people in general? I do. You should know if this is good or not. Again, do the girlfriend test. Would she like it if she listened to the conversation?

    Do these two statements contradict?

    If you marry her, you make a decision to love her for the rest of your life. Love is a choice that you make. So, you chose to love her despite any doubts nagging at your heart. And as for choosing the 'right one', the 'right one' is a myth. No one can be a perfect wife to you, just as you can't be a perfect husband to anyone. To me, it sounds like she is a good person for you to marry. But only you can decide that. Give it some time to think and pray, get marriage counselling with her, and do some major brain training to discipline your lusty eyes.
    Rb ;)
     
  7. Headspace

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    I actually prefer non-shaved women by now. It's a weird trend. You might guess that it's more hygienic, but it's not. In fact, shaving creates a whole lot of tiny wounds (and sometimes disgusting ulcerous spots) on your skin, allowing infections to get in. As long as you wash your pubic hair daily, there's nothing to worry about in that regard. Furthermore, you can caress the pubic hair in a gentle and subtle way without even touching the skin. When you shave, this opportunity is gone and all you can do is rub it.
    I don't know when man started shaving his body hair. But in the last decades there has arisen this weird trend requiring you to shave more and more parts of your body. 100 years ago, no girl got the idea of shaving her vagina. 50 years ago, no guy got the idea of shaving his chest, and now they are even shaving their dicks and buttholes. Apparently, you need to become more and more sterile, like a product wrapped in plastic (while you aren't even sterile, but more prone to infections as I just stated). If it continues like that, men will soon have to shave their legs and women will start shaving their heads.

    (i) This other-nationalities thing is just the constant search for novelty you know from porn. Of course you're not a racist, but it is obvious that a part of you associates being with such a woman a crossing of a line, a sort of exhilarating experience. In reality it's not any different, it doen't play any role at all.
    (ii) Even if she did, your attention would probably be turned to these women nevertheless. Your girl is doing it just right, keeping her sexuality on the inside. She's keeping her sexuality for you instead of exposing it to the public.
    (iii) Almost any woman looks attractive in high heels. It's a cheap and easy way to increase your attraction as a woman.

    That's great. The more directly you have to face this temptation, the more you will get out if it. Regarding the other women, there will be tempations in every marriage. Learn to look, appreciate and move on. To be able to move on, you need to realize that mere sex won't get you anywhere.

    My conclusion is that if you choose her, reboot and stick with her you will be a happy man in the future. But you'll have to stick with her.
     
  8. MadHatter

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    I'll keep this plain and simple, OP: from your post, it looks as though you have found your partner. Even better than that, you said it yourself! you want to marry her. That is it.

    Re: other women, I am with @Headspace. Temptation does not automatically go away when you marry. Get used to it, and find ways to better yourself so that your wife remains your one and only. It sounds as if that is what you want, and there is no reason why you shouldn't have it.
     
  9. IGY

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    I agree guys, pubic hair - it's all good! :cool:
     
  10. True-Self

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    I'll offer another view: maybe she's not shaving because you aren't sleeping together.... Why would she go to extra grooming efforts if you aren't seeing her naked?
     
  11. WoundedHealer

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    @Everyone and the person who moved this thread to the right place. Thank you!
    I read your thoughts, and I'm very encouraged :)
    I'm going to re-read them when I get more of a chance...
    it feels like I've been away from this forum for ages, but it's only been a week...

    Much appreciated
     
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  12. Strength And Light

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    Stay away from porn and you'll quit nitpicking your future fiancé. Seriously.

    And most importantly, CONGRATS!

    Please let us know how it goes when you popped the question. If we don't hear from you, we'll know she said no and you've lost yourself to a porn-psychosis relapse of epic proportions. Just kidding. Good luck!!
     
  13. Hutch

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    Dude, sounds like you got one of the last few great girls, she loves you, she's in a great mood because of you, com e on man, seriously?

    Oh, and think of natural girls like original Coke, before high fructose corn syrup and aspertamine.
     

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